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So, I set out to go down town to purchase 3 or 4 small items - first port of call is M&S - but, before I can reach the door, the Big Issue seller calls “Hello, duh, duh, duh” or whatever it is they say. I declines - and I go in and do my shopping. Then I have to leave via the main entrance - and then he tries again and gets the same response. Then onto the next two shops - and no assailants. Homeward bound now - which means going passed the BI seller again - with the same treatment.
The next port of call is Smiths - and I walk in through the left-hand side door and, just inside ahead of me are two tall, smartly-dressed black guys - one of whom starts his opening gambit of “Hello, how are you, Sir?”- which elicits a “I’m not interested, thank you.” I think it was some charity they are collecting for. I do what I have to do there - and then I need to go to the till, and the same man pounces again and gets the same “I’m not interested,” remark. I pay for my purchase, and before I can leave the other guy pounces with the same remark - which brought forth the reply: “I’ve just told your friend “No” - and it applies to you as well.”
Then to Holland & Barrett - there is a large display of the product I want - but no price labels or tickets. So, I go to the counter to ask the price - this I accept, but add the comment that I thought it was general policy in shops to display the price of the products.
Next stop is Specsavers - who have started this recently - of a member of staff immediately wanting to know if they can help you - they get a one-word reply “Contacts” - which they can’t help me with, anyway. Fortunately, they let you out easily!
“Infamy - infamy - they’ve all got it in fer me!”
Fortunately I made it home with no further interruptions - but needed a double strength Espresso (with sugar) to revive me! And, yes, I know there has be charity collectors - but, I have the donations to the charities I support paid monthly by my Bank And I’m fed up with assistants who have to approach a customer immediately they walk in the shop. I think I may well change my name to Victor Meldrew!
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Big Issue sellers are like most people selling items, they are desperate and its all in the numbers, the more times you ask people the more chance there is of selling. I find the best way for all sellers and charity collectors is to smile and say no thank you to them in a firm and friendly manner.
Holland & Barrett; as the former manager of the Lowestoft store, I know firsthand how stressed out all staff are, with head office not allowing the staffing levels needed. I also happen to know that the lady who took over from me as manager (the former supervisor) is currently off on maternity leave, as is the supervisor, and the current acting manager is a recently-promoted part time staff member (the girlfriend of a friend of mine) who is frankly in way over her head. I agree about the prices needing to be displayed either on shelf or product, but many other companies also fail; Tesco for many weeks have failed to display a price for their own brand muesli.
At least people are trying to make you feel welcome - nothing worse than being in a shop, ignored by sales assistants!
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I find the best way for all sellers and charity collectors is to smile and say no thank you to them in a firm and friendly manner.
I agree about the prices needing to be displayed either on shelf or product, but many other companies also fail; Tesco for many weeks have failed to display a price for their own brand muesli.
At least people are trying to make you feel welcome - nothing worse than being in a shop, ignored by sales assistants!
Re: the Charity Sellers - that is what I do - although I didn't explain it as well as you! One doesn't usually see Charity Sellers inside a store - and having already had dealings with the BI seller, it didn't help the latest volley.
I didn't realise that "people had to make me feel welcome" - by going into the store - if they are busy and there's a queue, I wait my turn - patiently. However, I was just walking through to get the upper floor and, as I said, they can't help me re: my lenses.
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JUST SAY 'DO I LOOK LIKE I NEED BIG ISSUE'
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In all honesty...They dont bother me in the street...
Then again, they dont normally approach me...
Probably due to the way i look...
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I dont let them bother me either just say a polite no thanks with a smile I do feel sorry for them because its a thankless task trying to sell those darned mags I think there are better ways to earn a paltry sum
I ve started getting a lot of mobile calls telling me I am owed some amazing sum of compensation and they are getting me answering between clenched teeth yesterday when they told me I was due compensation I said' for what' and she said 'well you have had finance in the last 10 years' and I repy 'no I haven't and she said but you MUST have Time for phone to go down
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FC, We get maybe three calls a week on our land line from an 0843 number which gives out a recorded message about the same thing - PPI - I just put the phone down every time. If it is from the same source each time you think their system would get the message.
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Funkychick..
In all honesty...Why are you even answering phone calls from people you don't know...
If i dont know the number...I just dont answer it...
I get no mobile spam calls...purely because i dont give ANY company/stranger/business...not even my bank or any governmental department, the number...
My house phone is answered by the answer machine..Which will allow me to hear whatever message they want to leave...That way it costs the spammers for the connection...
If it's important..They will leave a message..Which i can intercept by answering it..If i want to...
I just dont answer any phone call from someone i dont know...Mobile or otherwise..
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Boatbuilder...
No...if you actually 'answer it' they know your a 'live' one...and will keep calling..The software knows the difference between you picking it up..or the 'answer machine' talking to them...
If you let the answer machine 'answer' it...It's registered as a 'Not live'..( maybe 50 times of 'answer machine' and you will be removed from their 'calling list')
But whatever you do...you will still be called..purely because they got your number..as it passed between different spammers..
And that is 100% fact...
Check it on Google...
Never answer a call from somone you dont know..There aint much you can do..other than just NOT answer it...
Never answer any 0834/0844/0845 numbers...Its all crap from those numbers..and nothing you want to know about..
If it is important...They will leave a message..
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with nuisance phone calls like that I usually say "oh I'm glad you've called, just hang on a minute" while they wait with glee at finally hooking a punter I wander off and read the newspaper until the phone starts beeping some time later.
One of my pet hates are the people who pounce on you at motorway service areas trying to sell you another credit card. I find that telling them that I'm bankrupt and not allowed to have a cheque book or card usually throws them off the scent.
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If you answer...You go on the 'Live List'...(the software all spammers/cold callers use recognises the difference between you answering and the 'answer machine' taking the call...)
The 'Live List' goes on and and on and on..
Continual 'Answer Machine' gets put on the 'dead list'...
But still...Why are any of you answering phone calls from 08 numbers...
Someome explain to me logically why anyone would answer a call from known spam 08 numbers..or from numbers that they dont know..
Seriously...
I just ignore ANY 08 number...If it's important...they'll leave a message...
Now idea why people even answer a number beginning with '08' ?
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Paul I have a 92 year old father a 90 year old mother and grand kids when my mobile goes I answer it I do not look on the screen to see who is calling
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The issue I have with this is that like most people, I am often expecting phone calls from numbers I would not normally recognise. For example, I apply on average for 10 jobs a day. If 1 of those a day called me for interview, I would have no idea what number would be calling me, hence I have to answer every call just in case. If I screened my calls, the betting is that the employment agency would not leave a message, but simply go onto the next person on their list. I also have to bear in mind that if anything happens to a member of my family, I do not know the number of the hospital or police station that could call, and so cannot just do as you suggest.
It is a lonely existence if you only answer calls from numbers you recognise.
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We kept getting calls from a business wanting to lower our credit card rate!We only have one credit card that we pay off each month as we usually only use it for gas(petrol).We are on the "Do not call" list so I called the Attorney General's office and was told they are trying to catch thses people but they change their number and location so much it is hard to do ,but it is a scam.Lately we have not had any calls-at first I answered a few-even told them we don't have any credit cards but they still called.Then I started lettng the answer machine get it and they would hang up each time.Maybe the Attorney General's office finally got to them.
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I get no mobile spam calls...purely because i dont give ANY company/stranger/business...not even my bank or any governmental department, the number...
I don't give out my mobile number - but, interestingly, last October, I changed my mobile - different make, new number but same supplier: Orange. I had never received any texts. From the moment I started with the new phone (and I hardly ever use it) I get an average of 3-5 texts a day!
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That may be a coincidence. Many marketeers are now jumping back to using telenumber calling, on PC software rather than the oldstyle machines. They call or text every single number possible, knowing that the profit from the 1 in 100 that respond will pay for the small cost of internet calling/texting.
The experts have predicted that spam emails and texts will increase in 2012 by an average 60%! I know that I now get 3-5 spam texts a day, which is annoying but something I am trying to get used to.
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Trigger - please just accept that you are fortunate not to be the one that has to try to sell those Big Issues.
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Trigger - please just accept that you are fortunate not to be the one that has to try to sell those Big Issues.
Valid point - but I'm retired anyway.
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Freelance...
And the reasons for being 'homeless' and not receiving support are?
Or are they getting DHSS support and working the 'Allowed' hours and still claiming benefits?
No one has to be 'Homeless' nowadays...
Is selling the 'Big Issue' classed as work?
Do they declare their earnings?
Or do all 'Big Issue' sellers look like 'Alcoholics' or 'Heroin' addicts...
In all the years i see the 'Big Issue' sellers..I've yet to anyone that dont look like that..
Immigrants get houses quicker than they do...is that by choice on the 'Big Issue' sellers?
Maybe i am stuck in the past...But i just say it as i see it...
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I am also great cynic. I try not to be TOO nasty. At the same time, I don't think they are doing this because it is a wonderful thing to be doing. Didn't realise it would become a questionnaire.
On a different tack -- the Big Issue is a surprisingly upmarket magazine, and they pay their freelances well, too.
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Yes you are definitely stuck in the past!
A friend of mine is one of those selling the Big Issue in Lowestoft. They work on a self-employed basis, and this is all above board and allowed by the Job Centre and the council. They have to buy the magazines in advance, and then sell them at the cover price, which is usually double the wholesale price. If they do not sell their quota they own, its their bad luck and they are out of pocket.
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I think you are being unecessarily harsh there Paul the guys selling the Big Issue are at least doing some workin all weathers it is all above board and declared and far better that sitting on your a... with your play station or pasma TV you should admire them i wouldnt want to do it and thank goodness have never had to
There are some people who fall through the net and are homeless even nowadays
JJ is there anyone in the whole wide world you dont know doesnt matter what the subject you have been there done that or have a best friend that does
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I was also in town today and i saw the mixed race Big Issue seller outside M&S being quite forward at times (same person?) The charity workers i noticed in WH smiths all week, different people each day, remind me of mormons a bit, standing by the magazines i normally walk the other way after seeing a couple of other people getting snared. I dont envy their jobs though, mine is enough for me.
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The guy that sells the Big Issue goes to the same church as me. Going to church opens up a whole new social network, and you get to meet people from all walks of life. The person whose girlfriend is acting manager at Holland & Barrett attended a job interview with me for Screwfix, and we're now friends on Facebook.
It's all about getting out there, getting to know people. Rather than keeping within a tightknit community.
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and the best friend at cefas and the IT specialist and, and, and .......
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Friend at Cefas I have known for 3 weeks; he is encouraging me to set up my own web design business. I'm not confident I could make it a success though. He is the senior web developer there. I have friends who are also IT experts; several of those are younger than me, and I have met them when they volunteer at Age Concern for a few months (training as provided by companies subcontracted by the Job Centre, such as Pinnacle People, Reed in Partnership, YMCA etc). Working at Age Concern also helps widen the social circle, and lets face it, the more people you know the better chance you have of doing what you want later on in life.
I think its called networking by many people, and the best known form of networking is known as 'the old boys club'. I dont have that type of connection, but am rapidly realising that networking is the way to go for most people, as you never know who may know someone who may know someone who can help you.
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Never answer any 0834/0844/0845 numbers...Its all crap from those numbers..and nothing you want to know about..
Paul..
Not true.
I know many bona fide 0845 numbers. My dentist for one.
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Also like to point out that Darren - the owner of LowestoftOnline - operates his businesses via 0844 and 0845 numbers, and as one of his clients I also have 2x 0844 phone numbers. You simply can't "know" that all calls from them are rubbish. For example, nowadays many jobcentre departments and other government departments will call you via an 084* number. Ignore them at your peril!
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...or a person could let an 'answer machine' take care of it...
Can't be that important if they dont leave a message..
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I have sometimes purchased a copy of the 'Big Issue' not a bad read but if I am not interested in buying one I find a polite "No thank you" is usually received well and I usually get something like a cheery "Have a nice day" reply....probably not what they are saying under their breath though 
Saying that I think the days of buying the 'Big Issue' have come to an end for me...it seems that some of them are working the system and have a much larger income than you would imagine, once more the British taxpayer is being taken for a ride. Read more Here
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thankless task big issues,i feel sorry for some,there a lady who sells it in southwold very same lady gets on train and sells it im wanstead..3times a week outside somerfields noth wanstead and southwold,dread think cost of those fares... you do not have to be homeless to sell BI
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Thats her twin, silly SD
Wouldnt have thought there were many BI sellers in Southwold
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There's one in Aldeborough that's very persistent. An Indian-looking lady - are we allowed to use that description?
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Absolutely fine Frankie if thats where shes from no differret to syaing English looking. Hows your son getting on with the school run? Often think about you in the mornings
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It's been a bit of a nightmare since he went back after Christmas as you know. The educational social worker offered to take him in two days a week when she comes past but that was a bad idea, he flatly refused. He's not been so bad this last week, I've had to take him in every day but he's got out of the car and gone straight in each day. Once we've got that licked we'll work on getting him to use the school bus. His main problem seems to be a separation anxiety (nice label) but he has to leave us at some point so we're working up to making that point when he leaves to get on the bus. It's not as if he's on his own, he can get on it with his twin brother and sister and two next-door neighbours. Fingers crossed that things are getting better. Thanks for asking.
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Well hopefully for all of you its moving in the right direction. there is no telling where anxieties, panics and phobias come from and they are SO unbelievably uncomfortable for the person experiencing them, We have a little boy in my grandaughters class(8yr old) going through the same thing but it seems to have broken down and he isnt oming at all at the moment I think you are doing the right thing just have to stick with it and not move too fast get him used to each level of seperation before moving onto the next hopefully a phase he will get out off
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We have a "CAM" interview next week, the educational social worker thought it a good idea to involve them but his sort of issue has a waiting list for 6 to 9 months. Sounds like they should be employing a few more people. It will all be sorted by the time they get involved.
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I think most people working in both adult and childhood mental health areas recognise the need for more practioners however with the latest round of cuts the number have been cut even further also beds in acute care hospitals are down to a minimum so unfortunately when it comes to adult mental health you will find over the next few years more and more people who can be a great danger to others or themseves out in the community
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I was in John Lewis’ this morning (around 11a.m.) - and was in the kitchenware dept which was not overly busy. But what I particularly noticed was there were very few sales people around - and certainly none in the area where I wanted to make a purchase. I must have hung around for 10 minutes or so - and then went for a coffee. When I returned it was just the same - but eventually I found someone. I told her what I wanted to purchase . . . “Do you know which one you want?” she asked, I replied that I did. “Well, you just take that one off the bottom shelf, and take it to the tills,” I was told. My reply was that I didn’t realise that that was the system - adding “Nor did I realise that the store was becoming a glorified self-service supermarket”. The item I was purchasing was expensive.
The whole store has recently undergone a major refit - it would seem that to help pay for it, there must have a reduction in the number of staff.
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THIS A SAD FACT MORE PEOPLE BE IN AWFUL SITUATIONS MENTALLY EITHJER AS SUFFERES OR VICTIMS.BUT HEY HO SAW PRISONERS BEING INTERVIEWD HE WAS MIFFED HE HAD NO ON SUIT AS HE EXERCIZE IN VERY TOP NOTCH PRISON GYM..WEAS ON LOOK EAST OR SOME NEWS PROGRAM YESTERDAY. I WENT INTO TOWN GOT STUFF AT PEACOCK SO SAD TALKING TO THE GIRL ON TILL..SEEING EVANS SHUT ALSO. SO JOHN I MAKES DO WITH BARGIN BASEMENT THERE STILL RICH FOLKS AROUND GO INTO JL
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SO JOHN I MAKES DO WITH BARGIN BASEMENT THERE STILL RICH FOLKS AROUND GO INTO JL
SD: You shop where you want to - and I shop where I want to - it’s called freedom of choice. The product I was buying was the roughly same price anywhere it was sold - the cheapest I’ve seen it was Amazon where it’s £2.96 cheaper - but I didn’t wish purchase it from them.
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I dont think I ve ever been to John Lewis Not much of a shopper myself but I have been to the John Lewis store a few times and it has always been a pleasurable experience (as far as shopping can be pleasurable I suppose). A department store like John Lewis is what Lowestoft needs. If the old Tuttles shop had kept in business I imagine we could have had our own version of John Lewis, right here on Station Square
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When I was looking for a new TV (Dec 2010) I wanted to purchase a Sony, I checked them out it John Lewis’ - who offer a free 5-year-guarantee plus would price match if applicable. Whilst there I discussed my requirements with a representative from Sony - who wasn’t selling the products - just advising. I checked it out elsewhere - Richer Sounds didn’t stock it, I could get it cheaper online - but generally, the 5-year guarantee was extra, and often there was carriage to pay.
I bought it from the Sony Centre (Chapelfield Mall) - the price was the same as JL’s with 5-year-guarantee - but it was a very different “sales experience”. The staff knew the product well - and could discuss all aspects of it - and compare other models if necessary.
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Funky: Hadn't read you wrong - I simply assumed that you'd never been there - and it's slightly "off the beaten track" from the other shops!
A couple of months ago I was looking for a new coat (the sort that used to be referred to as a Car Coat) so visited various stores in Norwich. Sauntered through JL’s “Men’s Wear” - and saw a coat I liked - then I looked at the price label - £649! And quickly put it back on the hanger!
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I'm sure you wouldn't be buying a Man's coat anyway! 
A few years ago I bought a printer from them (price-matched to PC World) and some time later it went wrong and it had to go away for repairs. When I collected it, the be-suited man at the desk gave me a form to sign - I started reading it - and he said "Most people just sign it." I replied "Well, I'm not 'most people' and I want to know what I'm agreeing to - after all I could be signing myself into White Slavery." He just looked at me and said "If there was any chance of that, I would have signed up years ago."
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I have sometimes purchased a copy of the 'Big Issue' not a bad read but if I am not interested in buying one I find a polite "No thank you" is usually received well and I usually get something like a cheery "Have a nice day" reply....probably not what they are saying under their breath though  Saying that I think the days of buying the 'Big Issue' have come to an end for me...it seems that some of them are working the system and have a much larger income than you would imagine, once more the British taxpayer is being taken for a ride. Read more Here Saw this in the Press today - “One-third of Big Issue sellers now Romanian: Job once reserved for Britain's homeless has been swamped by Eastern European immigrants. And many of them have homes AND claim benefits” Link
I think this current publicity will do a lot of harm to the Big Issue organisation.
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You can always trust the Daily Mail to produce a well balanced piece. The only 'crime' that these people have committed is a: being from a foreign country, and b: the worse crime of all, being a Gypsy. This article would not have looked out of place in 1930's Germany.
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You can always trust the Daily Mail to produce a well balanced piece. A few other papers carried the story too George but that is besides the point. I am just glad that someone is telling us what is happening to our taxes. The Romanians are not to blame or any of the other scroungers coming to this country (although saying that their morals are not the best) it is the law that is wrong and until it is changed I hope the press keeps us informed of the cost to feed, clothe, educate and keep healthy all these foreigners who come to our shores just to take advantage of our generous benefit system.
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You can always trust the Daily Mail to produce a well balanced piece. The only 'crime' that these people have committed is a: being from a foreign country, and b: the worse crime of all, being a Gypsy. This article would not have looked out of place in 1930's Germany.
I agree George anything to whip up racial agrevation and they are doing a good job. If any of you look at the news on yahoo uk and look at the comments by the general public after ANY news item it is flooded with the most vile hatred and raciest comments which are unbelievable It can be some minor news item with absolutely nothing to do with foreigners but that slant will be brought in, in really hateful ways. When that young Latvian girls body was found on Sandringham estate the comments were hideous and made me totally ashamed to be British not a thought in the world for a poor young girl being murdered not a thought in the world for her family just really really vile comments
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Mel maybe just maybe we should worry about our own scroungers first which are far more numerous than Romanian I am not in favour of Romanian or any others coming here to scrounge but they are scapgoats for much worse things happening amongst our own and also a very easy target
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If any of you look at the news on yahoo uk and look at the comments by the general public after ANY news item it is flooded with the most vile hatred and raciest comments which are unbelievable That is just a very small minority of racist bigots who like to mouth off on internet sites where they know they are not going to be identified.
Just because people criticise foreigners who are scrounging off British taxpayers do not make them vile and hateful racists like the liberal left in this country likes to portray them...that trick worked whilst Blair and his cronies were in charge of the country but most people see through that argument now.
And hopefully we will start doing something about our own scroungers, starting with the cap on benefits which is in the news at the moment.
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As we’ve strayed from the original subject - could I suggest that we continue discussing this “new” topic in the “Debating Chambers”.
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That is just a very small minority of racist bigots who like to mouth off on internet sites where they know they are not going to be identified.
That's not strictly true, Mel. People have to log in to post and they must be registered with an email address. If necessary they can be traced. A bit like on here!
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OK Boatbuilder they could be traced but it is true that they are only a very small minority.
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That is just a very small minority of racist bigots who like to mouth off on internet sites where they know they are not going to be identified.
Just because people criticise foreigners who are scrounging off British taxpayers do not make them vile and hateful racists like the liberal left in this country likes to portray them...that trick worked whilst Blair and his cronies were in charge of the country but most people see through that argument now.
And hopefully we will start doing something about our own scroungers, starting with the cap on benefits which is in the news at the moment.
Your misquoting me Mel I didnt say anyone who speaks against foreigers scrounging is racist I said the remorks made by the general public on the news net were hugely racist and very very vile and if its a tiny minority they are certainly very vocal please check my post to see that I didnt say that at all
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The Romanians are not to blame or any of the other scroungers coming to this country (although saying that their morals are not the best) Sorry Mel, but are you saying Romanians are scroungers and that their morals are not the best? or something else? Please clarify for me. I can only assume that you have had a fair few dealings with scroungers from other countries and/or Romanians to be able to make such a sweeping remark.
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Hi Mel thats Ok I knew you didnt do it purposely I just wanted to make it clear that scroungers come in all shapes and sizes and I also abhor all scroungers I just think it can be dangerous to label one nationality so. I am sure there are many Romanians working and paying taxes in this country but unfortunately the others give the whole nation a bad name
Just like the bad British boys that run off to the Costa del Sol to hide their crimes and 'winnings'
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Fair call Mel. I shall say no more in fear that I get this topic locked again.
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as i am unable flick page back i take it topic well off subject from what i read all can say is jermany kyle people he has on should make us worry cos sure scare the doo doo out of me.
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I’ve been in Tesco Metro and went to the Self-Serve till - and, before I started, I opened up one of the plastic carrier bags in readiness to received my goodies. I then pressed Start - and then turned to get the first item out of the basket and THAT voice boomed out “Unexpected item in bagging area. Please remove before continuing” - aargh! So, I had to wait for the assistant to saunter up. I told her what I had done: 1) opened the bag, 2) then pressed Start - and the voice boomed out. “It’s ‘cos you’ve moved the bag,” she said. “But, I had to open the bag to put my items in,” I replied. “Opening the bag must have changed the weight,” she declared. Thinks: if the bag weighs, say, one gram unopened, then by her logic opening it and thus letting air into it must increase the weight! She reset the machine . . and I proceeded with my purchases. No wonder I’m more confused than confused.com!
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Nope your doing it wrong, using logic.
You scan each item in turn, and after each item you place on after-counter. At the end you do the usual, pay etc. Only when a receipt has been issued do you actually place the items in the bag, all the while panicking whilst the machine tells you to please remove your items. And under no circumstances do you ever place your own bag on the counter - it doesnt matter what you do, this confuses the machine and results in a call for a human being.
Its real easy to use self-serve..... as long as you do not use logic.
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I've never used a Tesco self serve checkout, but I have not had the problems with putting items in the bags as I go, in other supermarkets, so your logic is totally wrong, JJ. After scanning the items a voice will tell you to put the item in the bag. If you have 15 items or so there is unlikely to be room to place them anywhere else other than in the bagging area.
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Nope your doing it wrong, using logic.
Strange that I'm doing it wrong (according to you, that is) . . . having done it that way for some 2-3 years at Tesco, Sainsbury and Asda with no problems.
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The first one I saw and used was about five years ago in the Dover Tesco. This was built like one of the regular “counters” with a conveyor belt - and the “collection area” for the items as they came off the belt. So, I scanned the first item and put it on the moving conveyor belt, then next item, then the next - and so on until the machine “threw a wobbly” and a member of staff came over to sort me out.
Turns out - after you’d scanned the first item you placed it on the belt - then had to wait until it went into the “collection area” - then you did the next item. I think it took longer to scan your items than to shop for them! When I was next in Dover (visiting family), went to Tescos - and the self-serve tills had gone! 
The best ones I’ve encountered are the ones in Asda - who also have very helpful assistants.
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asda's dont seem to give as many problems as tescos but they have shouted at me but there is aways someone nearby to ping the buttons and reset them a thankless job
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asda's dont seem to give as many problems as tescos but they have shouted at me but there is aways someone nearby to ping the buttons and reset them a thankless job
I'd shout back at it! 
The only problem i've really had there is if, after scanning, I put the item into the bag too quickly - the 'pooter needs a few seconds for a breather!
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