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Old Spice
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With WDC proposing to allow unlimited industrial building with no planning restraints on the so called harbour conservation area which will include industrial buildings on stilts to allow tourists to peep underneath and through a fence to see what were once views of the sea,yacht station and harbour I think visitors numbers will decline still further.
Which is best for tourism,sea views and a historic fishing dock,or yet another industrial estate?.
Visitors already see the awfull Tuttles building and a town centre dying on its feet,do they really need another reason to go elsewhere?.
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Surely the prospect of more employment and better prosperity for Lowestoft is preferable to maintaining your view of the sea.
I cannot believe that tourists come here to look at an empty dock. Nor do they flock to Waveney Road in order to take in the sea views. They have a few miles of beach to do that from.
The harbour area is an industrial zone. Therefore it's the best place for industrial development.
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I told my girlfriend I had a job in a bowling alley. She said 'Tenpin?' I said, 'No, permanent.'
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I agree with Juststu I can understand how it effects you OS and can see your dissappointment but remembering the area as an industrial area with a very busy port, heaving fish markets, trains(trucks) carring the stuff away from the docks fisher girls wandering around and the shouting and noise from the ongoing fish auctions I would love to see it converted to a busy area agai; as fishing will not return then energy or any sea industry is what should be there Views of the sea are not happening from Wavney Rd that is river/harbour viewing. Views of the sea come from the prom, south pier ( and I would love the two piers to be done up and improved ) and anywhere along Marine Parade
Personally if I was moving to Lowestoft for the sea view I would not be looking at Waveney or Whapload Rd
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Old Spice
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I thought I'd post this here so that I can remnd myself what it used to look like when I've got some hideous monstrosities on stilts to look at instead.
The harbour area is not classified as an industrial area,its a conservation area.Have a look at the WDC map.
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OS it was aways a working port,- in your time here it hasnt been, i presume it was made a conservation area because there were old buildings in that area deemed worth preserving
I think your poll is totally biased and not really worth voting in because at this stage we have no idea what they are going to encourage being built there, if it turns out to be a higgeldy piggeldy mish mash of shacks as you have named it then you will have been proved right, however if it is buildings in keeping with a harbour area and of use to encourage some new businesses into the area then I think the sacrifice of your view will be worthwhile after all you had already decided to move away
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Old Spice
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When I arrived here I reopened the old fishing store "East Coast Stores" and supplied all the fishing boats that were at that time operating out of the harbour.I often had four of five full sized trawlers outside the windows and would supply everything from the cutlery to the crews gloves.
So it was a working port in my time here and my shop like the two others in Battery Green Road was a part of it.
The others closed but I have carried on despite the fishing industry being killed off,the traffic system,yellow lines and being the only person on in the area being forced by the council to obey the stipulations of their 'conservation ' area status.
I think after all this I'm entitled to some sort of consideration.I appreciate most peoples view wont be affected,I bet they'd play a very different tune if it was.
If that makes me biased,yes I am and I'm proud of it.
I've a property to look at as soon as I can,I'll be checking if the council teher have the same reputation for bungling,fiddling and lying as this one before I make an offer.
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OS, you mentioned these buildings on stilts. But is it possible (maybe from a planning website) to see pictures of what the proposed buildings will actually look like?
I can understand your frustration as a resident. Anyone would be angry to learn of such units, or a busy road, or anything similar, being planned right outside their window. Especially if the view from their window was one of the main plus points for living in that location - a location that, in other respects, has a number of negative points.
So if there are any planning pictures available online please could you post them here where we could see them, & see what you mean? Thankyou.
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OS I knew your shop orignally dealt with the shipping industry which is why I thought you would understand it is and always has been a working area I admire the fact that you have kept going when others have flaked I also think you have done well to deviate and change your business to fit in with the times however I think your disappointment is overiding the fact that it is an area which needs improving and building up
If you had bought a house on Marine Parade specifically to enjoy sea views and then they built a large industrial factory in front of you I would be hundred per cent behind you. My main point is you didnt buy that home for the view, that was the added bonus ,you bought it for its business side, so can you truely be justified when considerations to build on this area for industry and not residential are taken by WDC
As I said previously if WDC sc.... up and I agree they often do, then you will be vindicated but at this stage we dont know and surely its a chance that needs trying to improve a run down area
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Old Spice
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This is a picture of the buildings on stilts from the 'consultation ' document. The yacht station is the building in the background.
I bought this as a business but also to live in,I was told no building would ever be allowed on the docks,then again I was told the idea of it being a conservation area would enhance it.Just another load of lies from a council I now despise as a result.
A pity no one told them that the railway tracks were concreted over about thirty five years ago.
The full thing is here.http://consult.waveney.gov.uk/consult.ti/PowerParkDraftLDO2012/viewCompoundDoc?docid=2335828&partid=2337172&sessionid=&voteid=
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Cant agree with you that the area shouldnt be bult up but got to agree it looks pretty c.... not even a proper architectral drawin Oh dear doesnt bode well
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funkychick
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Looking at the yatch club I d love to know who did that drawing think my grandkids could improve on that
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Old Spice
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I wouldn't really mind single story units but object strongly to this monstrosity.
As posted elsewhere I'll now missing for a while from this forum,doubtless the debate will be going on when I return.
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funkychick
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Good luck OS hope all goes well thinking of you and wishing you the best
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Also wishing you the best ,Kevin.
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Kevin - wishing you all the best. I have spoken to the Hospital and asked that those pretty little Nurses handle you with care - and always warm their hands first. 
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OH KEVIN DONT GO AWAY I LOVE YOUR POSTS AND I AGREE WITH LOTS OF THEM,BUT BEST OF LUCK GOD BLESS
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I doubt if it will ever be built...
It would look too strange...and out of place...
Paul
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I think it is speculative thinking on behalf of the council. They've obviously not committed much money to it so far. Surely the available land is not wide enough for any sensible buildings and to build there would render the area unusable for its reason for being - serving vessels. if they feel there is a demand for these buildings why not build them down near Brookes where it is crying out for development.
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JustStu
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Because windfarm support companies don't want to be inland.
And being west of the bridge would also be a no-no.
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I told my girlfriend I had a job in a bowling alley. She said 'Tenpin?' I said, 'No, permanent.'
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frankiesays
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Will the people in the offices need to get on the boats? If not the office could be anywhere - a bit like the coastguards?
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Probably not, but then they'd need two bases. Obviously more economical and sensible to have the company at one base.
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JustStu
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One for offices and one vessel base east of the bridge.
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I still don't understand JS, If the people in the offices don't need to get on the boats and the people in the boats don't need the offices? Do they need a store? Why is there a necessity to have a building next to where the boats are berthed? The trawlers and rig stand-by boats have always managed without having to have an office on the quay, why are the wind generation people any different?
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Old Spice
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I sent this letter for publication.I doubt it will make any difference.I still cant see why everything has to be so overpowering,there are enough empty and derelict places to use up first.
Dear Sir
Given that it is brought to us by those responsible for the chaotic road system,the missed opportunity that was the Sunrise Scheme and the monumental waste of money on the phantom Waveney Campus we shouldn't be suprised that the 'Power Park' proposed for the old fish docks is as hideous and far spreading as it is inappropriate.Why must their plans always be on such a grandiose scale,why do they inevitably involve destroying rather than working with,what is already there?.
Those who own or rent property in the waveney road area for its sea views or that in view of its much heralded conservation area status it might remain a nice place to live,now find that whilst on their side of the road continued restrictions will be placed on painting a door or great emphasis placed on preserving a miniscule sash window,on the other,the sea view will vanish behind monstrous commercial buildings on stilts and normal planning restraints will go out the window.Those who already work here will see the amenities diminished in an already impoverished area.
Visitors to the town,already used to seeing boarded up shops,the permanent eyesore that is Tuttles its dereliction if anything emphasised by an expensive and silly statue, will now have to peep under these stitled contraptions to get a glimpse of the sea or harbour in what has always been held to be the towns historic port.
The sad thing is that those responsible for the bad mistakes of the past will look at this latest apalling 'vision' with the same rose coloured glasses which prevent them seeing the town as it really is,The blame for a town centre dying on its feet and industry and shop leaving the town by the lorry load has to be theirs with all the previous failed or flawed plans.Doubtless we'll hear and even see published still more nonsensical figures said to prove otherwise,then again you can prove anything with statistics,reality is what you see with you own eyes.
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JustStu
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Written like a true NIMBY. 
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Old Spice
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A silly comment,not worthy of discussion.
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funkychick
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Had to look one of them up I abhor alphabet soup
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Old Spice, your letter has made it to print, good work.
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Old Spice
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I notice a notice for planning permission to turn the old Hamiltons offices into offices for windcat boats has gone up.
The notice is very high off the ground (in itself a breach of planning law) and is dated 27 Jan.The notice refers to the need for permission as this is (lets all have a laugh now) a conservation area.
The date on the notice is about a week after the five weeks work to turn this into offices was completed,the interior (which you can't see through the frosted glass windows) is already filled with office equipment.
This planning office is just a sick joke really,what are thwy going to do if permission is denied,tell them to turn it back to a restaurant?
I wonder how long if I started some conversions would it be before some twerp with a clipboard rolled up on the pavement?.
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frankiesays
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Is that what they call retrosepctive planning permission? Perhaps you should paint your place he colour you wanted OS and then apply for permission to do it.
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Old Spice
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It annoys me that the 'rules' aren't applied to everyone the same.
On another note I hear the buildings and structures on Hamilton Road opposite the so called marina are to be demolished to make way for the 'power park.'
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