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Scorpio
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Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Posted: 07 January 2012 at 12:01 AM »
I'm interested to learn if there was ever a park known as Lorne Park in Lowestoft?  There's a road in Kirkley called Lorne Park Road which runs from near the top of London Road South almost to Fen Park, so I'm wondering if Fen park was ever known as Lorne Park?  There's also a Lorne Road and a Marquis of Lorne pub very close nearby. 

If there was a Lorne Park & it wasn't what we now know as Fen Park could it have been a name for the land now occupied by the playing fields of Kirkley Middle School, Meadow First School and  Kirkley High School?  My guess is that the houses on Lorne Park Road would all have been built around the 1890s, long before any of those three schools would have been built.

If you know anything I would be most grateful to hear from you.  Thankyou.
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Re: Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Reply #1 Posted: 07 January 2012 at 07:06 AM »
I looked this up years ago and unfortunately can't recall exactly what I learned but something is telling me that what is now Lawson road/Lorne /LornePark/Richmond  was all part of the land owned by the Marquis of Lorne. It might be worthwhile to investigate this line of thought.

What also might be of interest is that John St /Bruce St/Payne St were named after John Bruce Payne who was a Headmaster of a girls' school in St Aubyns Rd.
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Re: Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Reply #2 Posted: 07 January 2012 at 02:09 PM »
Thankyou for the prompt reply, Meryl.

I've been in touch with Ivan Bunn at the Lowestoft Records Office & he's promised to look into this for me.  He doesn't think the Marquis of Lorne owned land here, he suggested a possibility that when these streets were laid out they were given 'upmarket' sounding names to sort of grandify the area for better publicity. 

By the same thinking there's a Kirkley Park Road between London Road South & Carlton Road, yet there was never an actual Kirkley Park, although at the time this area of Lowestoft was being developed (1900-ish) the area was known as the Kirkley Park Estate.

John Bruce Payne also got a mention.  His school was on College Road, in the funny shaped building with the square tower - the one now selling mobility scooters.  The flats known as St Aubyn's Court were his home as well as being accommodation for the students.  The size of St Aubyn's Court (also called 'The Towers') makes me wonder if the school was actually much bigger in it's prime than just the mobility scooter building we see there today.

More information to hopefully follow shortly.  But if anyone else has heard anything or knows more I hope you'll add it below.  Thankyou.
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Re: Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Reply #3 Posted: 07 January 2012 at 02:38 PM »
This could be the person you’re looking for:- “John George Edward Henry Douglas Sutherland Campbell, 9th Duke of Argyll (1845 - 1914), usually better known by the courtesy title of Marquess of Lorne” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell,_9th_Duke_of_Argyll

Ivan Bunn’s thoughts re: “upmarket sounding names” sounds plausible!

If you do a Google search using “Marquis of Lorne” - you get a number of Inns, Hotels, Restaurants and Pubs with same name - obviously a popular name for such establishments!
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Re: Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Reply #4 Posted: 08 January 2012 at 04:36 PM »
Reading an article on the Lowestoft Journal website - “Now we can all be streetwise – thanks to Jenny’s new book” - Link - the book being “Southwold Street Names - a speculative history”- I see that Southwold also has a (Marquis of) Lorne Road.
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Re: Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Reply #5 Posted: 19 March 2012 at 09:09 PM »
Ivan Bunn asked me to explain this issue to him, I assume you are the gentleman who made the original request?

This is the name of the estate, which in short is comprised of various roads, all of which share a common theme of Canada.

In particular they are all located in Ontario

Why Canada? In the early to mid 1800's the level of immigation was something phenominal. I am not sure of the figures relating to Kirkley, but 150 left the (then) small village of Carlton Colville.

The connection with the later beerhouse, the Lorne Tavern (later known as the Marquis of Lorne) - John George Edward Henry Douglas Sutherland Campbell (1845-1914),

He was the 4th Governor General of Canada (1878 - 1883).

On the 22nd March 1871, John was married to Princess Louise Caroline Alberta (1848-1939), 4th daughter of Queen Victoria and so doing became a national figure.

When you encounter the term park, especially in a road (pre 1900) it should be read in the modern sense of a housing estate (i.e Kirkley Park Road, from 1870)
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Re: Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Reply #6 Posted: 19 March 2012 at 10:21 PM »
There is also Ontario Road in that Kirkley area.  Who was St. Leonard?
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Re: Was there ever a Lorne Park in Lowestoft? « Reply #7 Posted: 20 March 2012 at 08:19 PM »
Lord St. Leonard (of Slaugham, Sussex) - Edward Burtenshaw Shaw Sugden (1781 - 1875) MP, English legal writer, judge and Lord Chancellor of Great Britain (1852). St. Leonard's Road also contains villas of the same name additionally Salisbury and Beaconsfield Terraces continuing the political theme.
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