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JollyJapes
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Site back online « Posted: 28 December 2011 at 10:41 AM »

I just wanted to be the first to thank Darren for his hard work in resurrecting the LowestoftOnline website.  It has been down for around 2 weeks, and has been sorely missed.  Hopefully we can get the site back to its old ways in no time. 
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Re: Site back online « Reply #1 Posted: 28 December 2011 at 10:45 AM »

  Hopefully we can get the site back to its old ways in no time. 
But please   .....   without so much of the God slot and daily deaths.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #2 Posted: 28 December 2011 at 12:45 PM »

Whatever was behind the site going down I think it would be nice if Darren gave an explanation via a post on here to all the members as to what the reason was.  If it was the debit card fiasco then why did it take longer than the said 24 hours to get up and running again?  Huh
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Re: Site back online « Reply #3 Posted: 28 December 2011 at 04:31 PM »

I can't speak for Darren as to the exact reasons for the delays, but I do know a lot about website design.  It is often much harder than people realise, not like simply clicking a few buttons.  Sometimes it can take several days to find one little comma that is out of place in the code!  Many people take a website for granted, without realising the hassles involved in designing and maintaining it.  Whilst I agree that a an explanation of sorts would be nice, I also realise just how hard it can be to run several websites at the same time and still fit in a life of your own!  Personally I would like Darren to also appear, just so we can say hi to one another. 

The most important thing is that the forum is back, and we can chat as before on topics of interest to us. 

However, this may be a good time for admins to discuss on their own private section the future of this site?  It seems that many people do not like the news articles that were in the majority placed by myself and Trigger, and so I am refraining from adding new content for the moment.  This site, in my opinion, needs to have a good clear vision of the future, of how the website should look and operate.  As they say, a new year and a new beginning. 
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Re: Site back online « Reply #4 Posted: 28 December 2011 at 06:07 PM »

I agree with Mick's post about the Celebrity deaths and "God wants you to know!" I will continue coming to this site as I was one of the first members but I will also use Alice's site as she has put a lot of work into it.I appreciate Darren getting this site back online,because I am sure it took a fair amount of his time to do it.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #5 Posted: 29 December 2011 at 03:55 AM »

Not really bothered about the God Slot or the Celebrity Deaths as I usually gave them topics a miss anyway. I would like to thank Darren for getting this site back online and like Meg I will keep looking at both sites.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #6 Posted: 29 December 2011 at 01:05 PM »

Same here - will look on both sites.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #7 Posted: 29 December 2011 at 09:31 PM »

I shall have to keep an eye on both sites but there appear to be few people debating any new posts on Lol, are we dividing our time to the detriment to both sites, as is there any light at the end of the tunnel.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #8 Posted: 29 December 2011 at 09:36 PM »

Well, I have deliberately stopped listing any news articles as people were complaining about them.  However, it seems that without news articles, content on here is nonexistent.  Even the Joke brigade have stopped posting on here!  I'm waiting to see what the Admins on here think about how this site should work, the types of posts allowed the structure etc.  For the same reason, I am not posting anything on my blog, for now. 
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Re: Site back online « Reply #9 Posted: 30 December 2011 at 06:12 PM »

I have decided, due to lack of activity on this site, to restart adding news articles and other content.  This is to try and get comments and member interaction back up to the previous level - site activity is key to the success of the forums.  If the admin team would rather I stop, please PM me. 
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Re: Site back online « Reply #10 Posted: 30 December 2011 at 07:00 PM »

Might have the adverse effect, It might drive people away
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Re: Site back online « Reply #11 Posted: 30 December 2011 at 07:18 PM »

People should be able post what they want on here within the sites terms and conditions, if one doesnt like the 'god slot' or anything else just stay away from the thread, I do the same with the threads that dont interest me/bore me.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #12 Posted: 30 December 2011 at 10:35 PM »

Yes I quite agree with Jamesw82, but no one was talking about the god slot, if your posting was aimed to me, well I suggest you read what JJ posted before it.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #13 Posted: 30 December 2011 at 11:10 PM »

Jamesw82, I could not agree with you more, I am not at all religious but it will be a sad day when believers are banned or chastised for attempting to pass on there points of view. As for celebrity deaths it was one that I would give a miss.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #14 Posted: 31 December 2011 at 09:46 AM »

Yes I quite agree with Jamesw82, but no one was talking about the god slot, if your posting was aimed to me, well I suggest you read what JJ posted before it.

My post wasn't aimed at you, Freelance did mention the god slot in the second post on page 1 of this thread and i was merely highlighting that as an example, as it had already been used and not to have a go at anyone (thought this was supposed to be a 'nice' forum anyway?!).

I know contribute a bit to the Lowestoft Town FC thread and there's a birdwatching thread under hobbies and interests but i don't expect everyone to take an interest in those, in the same way how i don't read threads that don't interest me
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Re: Site back online « Reply #15 Posted: 31 December 2011 at 10:11 AM »

Yeah blame me  -  I don't mind.
Hey!  Must be tough times when God doesn't even rate a capital "G" for his name any more.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #16 Posted: 31 December 2011 at 10:46 AM »

I don't stand for the Queen either  Grin
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Re: Site back online « Reply #17 Posted: 01 January 2012 at 12:12 PM »

However, this may be a good time for admins to discuss on their own private section the future of this site?  It seems that many people do not like the news articles that were in the majority placed by myself and Trigger, and so I am refraining from adding new content for the moment.  This site, in my opinion, needs to have a good clear vision of the future, of how the website should look and operate.  As they say, a new year and a new beginning. 

Unfortunately the admin team have no say in the future of this site we purely monitor it, only Darren can decide what the site should look like and what the future for it is and I think you are all aware that we do not have contact with Darren very often.
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Re: Site back online « Reply #18 Posted: 01 January 2012 at 06:31 PM »

There is one very important issue you seem to have forgotten. The site administrators alongside the site owner, are legally responsible for the content on a forum such as this. An owner in absentia is the publisher, but the admin team who have the ability to control the content, are very much like the owners opt the Murdoch newspapers - they too are responsible.

Forgive me - but if Darren is unable/unwilling to allow his appointed administration team to set the rules that will protect all of you, then this is rather unwise.

I'd strongly advise the admin people to consider what they allow to be posted, because when tempers get hot, things get said that can easily become the basis for a libel action. With search engines such as Google spidering forums and keeping copies of what was said, plus web services such as the way back machine - a comment, even when removed a few days later may well still be 'out there'. Most forums have very strict terms and conditions on what is acceptable and sex, religion and politics are usually in bold - plus all the usual politically correct stuff ending in 'ism'.

The admin team sadly, do not just have a monitoring role. They have the tools and permissions required to edit and remove posts. Not using them, when they have them, is in my view a dangerous thing. In forums, the accepted authority levels tend to be moderator - people with the time to keep things neat tidy and safe. Administrators are the top level. It's their forum because they have control over what is posted, and what can be seen.

As for content - as in preferred content. This too is for the administration team to decide. If they like the news being copied and repeated, that's their choice. If they like the God stuff - fine. If they decide that they require proper spelling and punctuation, then they change the terms and conditions, and if we don't follow them, they remove our posts and posting rights.

The owner - Darren in this case - can't or won't take an active part in the process. That's actually quite common. He pays for the server costs and has an admin team for day to day stuff. If they have the passwords, then he's also given them responsibility. If he doesn't like all the stuff we're talking about, he'd have done something about it. If he's not bothered, then our admin team will have to decide - or take the risks personally. If somebody posts something libellous then admin will be blamed - saying they only monitor is rather like having the keys to the bank, and on discovering the burglars have been in and taken the cash, saying it was nothing to do with you. It's unlikely, of course - but legally, Annie is the publisher, because like the newspaper editors, she has the power to NOT let things be said. Somewhat scary really!
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Re: Site back online « Reply #19 Posted: 09 January 2012 at 12:54 AM »

put the forum on a vps = cheap, fast, IIS! Cheesy
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