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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #40 Posted: 06 February 2012 at 12:54 PM »
Good old Daily mail again
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #41 Posted: 06 February 2012 at 02:00 PM »
With the temperatures lower during the day and higher at night it sounds like it balances itself out.
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #42 Posted: 06 February 2012 at 09:11 PM »
Regarding the Daily Mail article, I would like to raise a couple of points.

If the temperature can be 4 degrees difference from the front to the rear of the turbines why has no one noticed this?  This a noticeable change, one that a person could easily feel. It seems odd that this hasn't been pointed out before.

As for the statement  'In these financially straitened times, we think it is unwise to make consumers pay, through taxpayer subsidy, for inefficient and intermittent energy production that typifies onshore wind turbines.'

Taxpayer subsidy? I thought it was paid for by a levy on energy bills.
Inefficient? When the 'fuel' is free and will never run out this is a silly statement.

As with global warming, it is hard to get a proper debate on wind energy...but still one tries Wink
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #43 Posted: 06 February 2012 at 11:29 PM »
So they change temperature then? A bit like a car engine maybe?
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #44 Posted: 07 February 2012 at 09:35 AM »
The law of conservation of energy applies.
Taking energy from the wind and turning it into electricity isn't 100% efficient (nothing can be) so it must generate other forms of energy like heat for example.
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #45 Posted: 07 February 2012 at 07:01 PM »
I also am not sure about that O S,  but the wind will always blow I guess, and it is free spirit. Smiley
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #46 Posted: 08 February 2012 at 08:24 AM »
It would seem that the Daily Mail story has a bit of history to it. http://bit.ly/AtoEWz . What's the betting the 'turbines cause climate change' will join the myths of 'no warming since 1997', 'UEA made up reports' and 'volcanoes produce more CO2 than man'?
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #47 Posted: 08 February 2012 at 09:59 AM »
The law of conservation of energy is fact. Energy cannot be created or destroyed but only changed into another form or forms.Transferring wind energy into electricity (which is then itself changed back into heat or light for example) cannot be 100% efficient as perpetual motion is an impossibility.
So it is entirely probable that windmills generate heat.
I can't see that it's a valid argument for or against the stupid things but it is scientific fact. Just because the Mail prints something it doesn't mean its not true although it is in all probability exaggerated.
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #48 Posted: 08 February 2012 at 11:09 AM »
Environmental Blog interesting isnt it, but the D M does seem a bit blase` re:  Roy`s statements, time will tell, let`s hope they turn out for our good eh!
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Re: Wind farm base a step nearer? « Reply #49 Posted: 08 February 2012 at 10:46 PM »
So based on that principle I guess the M1 must be causing climate change as well. Has anybody measured the heat either side of that? When it is foggy you can't see anything either side of the motorway but you can usually see at least a half-mile down it, must be to do with the heat of the exhausts.
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