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Looks like the old WW2/Cold War bunker is going to be replaced by 5 bungalows - all reports done, plans in. Only interesting feature is that the demolition has to be documented for historical purposes, but there was no reason to refuse planning permission.
I actually tried to get Waveney to let me buy/lease/rent this building a few years ago, but as it was flooded, it was impossible. Oddly, the pictures and report show it to be totally dry and simply spider ridden! Crafty lot! Pretty ugly to look at, but it could have been used for something and kept for the historical interest, but I suspect most people wouldn't agree.
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Thank you i was thinking in the wrong place. Yes i know it now and was always curious about what it was. I thought it was a council works depot.
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I actually tried to get Waveney to let me buy/lease/rent this building a few years ago, but as it was flooded, it was impossible. Oddly, the pictures and report show it to be totally dry and simply spider ridden! Crafty lot!
Pretty ugly to look at, but it could have been used for something and kept for the historical interest, but I suspect most people wouldn't agree.
Well the site's got to be worth a lot more to a developer, you'll probably find that's the bottom line.
Did they give reasons for refusing to sell/lease/rent it to you at the time? You say it was flooded back then but isn't now. This proves the flooding problem was easily addressed.
Lowestoft has something of a reputation for disregarding sites of historical interest. It's a shame, but sadly not uncommon here.
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They said they were unable to consider my offer as on investigation the site was flooded and remedial action was impossible - or words to that effect. Obviously, they thought it was flooded - but wasn't! One dead rat, and spiders!
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That great shame it going to be lost (although looks like pubic toilet)sounds like the thinking of the idiot who sold the Caven..it seems crying shame and very short sighted thing to do
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The most annoying thing is that apparenty WDC GAVE the site away, free of charge if it could have affordable housing on it. There was a site in Carlton Colville available on the same deal. So a developer builds his houses on land that belongs to the ratepayers - or maybe that's just an old fashioned viewpoint.
There are, in fact, a number of ex-cold war underground sites with preservation orders on them - usually Grade II listed status. RAF Neatishead has their over and underground buildings protected as there are very few of the design still left. The Norwich bunker near the Fire Station on the ring rd was lost a year or two ago - so not too many left. The other big one near the Norfolk Show Ground is still there, although it's used by a secure storage facility. People seem to forget the Cold War is history too now, and despite never being pretty buildings, they do form part of our heritage. People forget things very quickly - like RAF Hopton and the two huge towers left from WW2, and then the Cold War bunker that's still there until coastal erosion exposes it. Interestingly, the resident there has opened up the sealed access - but I doubt it will ever be usable, even as an attraction. It's all fire damaged from the 70s/80s when taken over by Hells Angels for a while. As there's a lot of asbestos down there it would be very costly to make it safe. RAF Neatishead which is similar, but larger underground is up for sale for around £4million, if you have it spare.
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yep - but just the ground floor. Didn't prove too popular!
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asbestos problem with it, may been lucky escape but i think it should have been bought by national trust because i gather they buying up all wartime prefabs that are still around...This been great bit of history
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I was brought up in a prefab lovely lovely house not many left they were only supposed to last a few years
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Cant believe its going to be more housing this town is getting worse. Ok it dont look nice but they stick housing anywhere now and think of how much the council is making in council tax in this town i really think soon lowestoft could do a sunderland and be named a city as you will see housing all over and probably to beccles with no gaps we might as well be a city with the houses we have here now.
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Not so long ago a workman & gentleman had cause to be in that building and this photograph was still pined to the notice board & he took the trouble to take it around to my sisters & give it to her.
He was a ARP messenger boy Aged 16\17 during the war but unfortunately he was killed in the biggest bombing raid in lowestoft.
That building is historical to me & it will be sad if it goes in my life time.
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Sorry another night for the photo.
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Let me get this right....................
It hasn't been used since the 1970's as soon as the land is going to be used for something constructive for the town people are complaining. 
All this time it has stood empty and uncared for without any complaint and as soon as the Council decide to make use of it people complain.
This is the problem with Lowestoft. As soon as there is any change taking place it is opposed regardless of any improvement taking place.
Pull it down, build the housing that is needed in the town and move on looking to the future.
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More housing s needed and this type of brown field site is ideal.
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If anybody is interested, Badger Builders told us today we're invited to a meeting to show off the plans for the 32 houses going to be built on the fire station site. 10 will be available to rent. No planning permission applied for yet, but they are at least keeping us informed.
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For rent yeah right for housing association rent more like and the waiting list for them is 7 years. Still at least they are keeping people informed why do people want loads more houses in this town its overcrowded as it is with imigrants and no jobs.
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For rent yeah right for housing association rent more like and the waiting list for them is 7 years. Still at least they are keeping people informed why do people want loads more houses in this town its overcrowded as it is with imigrants and no jobs.
If there is a wait for 7years that in itself shows there is a shortage of housing. So what is wrong with Housing Associations?
Overcrowded? I would hardly call Lowestoft that even during the holiday season.
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Lowestoft overcrowded and over run with immigrants i dont think we re living in the same place.
The immigrant population of Lowie is 1.4% nationally its 8 6% or there abouts
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Well ok not imigrants then foreign workers already in the taxi trade there is 32 foreign drivers in this town all of which the council have let drive cabs without a knowledge test and some of them just ask for postcode as they dont even know the roads in the town despite english workers having to do a demanding knowledge test and its not just lowestoft they have to learn neither but i guess most you guys would be happy getting into a taxi and the driver has no idea at all where you want to go. As for housing association houses i would love one but sadly i work for a living and dont have 5 or more kids so im not eligible to get one but people out of work with loads of kids are being given homes without the wait straight away, I know as i know someone who is doing it and i hate them for it. God ok im sounding like Old spice now lol. Thats my moan for now and remember if you need a cab make sure you know the postcode as to where you are going to or else you might be buggered.
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Well I regularly use taxi's with my Dad and we have never had to tell them where to go in fact some of the most polite
and helpful drivers have been Portugese I dont understand why they wouldnt have to do the same test as everyone else, have you asked the council why, and what was their answer, that seems very strange
You dont say how many taxi drivers there are in the area so 32 is not a useful number as there is nothing to compare it to If there are 1000 drivers then 32 is a drop in the ocean if there are 40 drivers in Lowestoft then 32 is a huge number
Live and let live you are free to go and drive in France or Spain and you' d get some sunshine to boot
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Fair comment FC but trust me some of these drivers are bad in other ways but i will not go into it. I have been to the council and they deny it all. Yes some of those drivers are nice im not disputing that but its getting worse in this town. Still who cares and if you are happy with the taxis you get thats a good thing FC.
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Thanks Vinney my post wasnt meant to be facitious I realise that its hard when you feel your jobs are being infringed upon and I am sure as in any community there are good and bad thankfully I ve only come across the good so far.
I think that WDC need to put a ceiling on taxi drivers whatever their background or nationality as it seems there are too many for the jobs going round.
Immigration, as of working here temporarily or living here long term, is very low compared to the national average. I would imagine that drivers along with factory workers are the two areas that will attract the most foreign or EU workers so it may seem to you that the town is overrun but this is VERY far from a fact
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I'd love to see what this building looks like inside. All these years, ive always wondered what it was.
Must agree with what another person said, does look abit like a boarded up public toilet!
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Allegedly, didn't the Council prevent a certain Mr Cooke from getting hold of planning permission on the industrial estate, then buy it off him and get permission themselves? Opening them up to a costly legal process and eventually having to recompense Mr Cooke? (That's the story I heard)
Would be interesting to see if you had any come back for them refusing to sell it to you.
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I heard recently that all taxi drivers have to have the knowledge and can't be employed without it .This was from someone who should know an owner of a local taxi firm .
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If you look back in the posts in this topic you'll find there are some posts referring to the number of taxi drivers. I think you'll find you also posted at that time, FC. (Post #24)
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Ahhh sorry I d moved back into the bunker haha
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I cannot tell if this Photo will be displayed until I actually post it.
It is a photo found pinned up on the wall of the Denmark Rd. bunker by a workman not many so many years ago. The workman handed it over to a well known local person who handed it to my sister and it has come into my possession on her death.
He was an ARP messenger boy who's job it was to relay messages during air raids to various bodies such as the police etc. (No phones readily available in those days.)
It appears that after he was killed the wardens acquired this photo and pinned it up on the wall in his memory.
To me that place is a war memorial.
A true hero at 17years old.
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I am sorry but it hasn't worked. BB Your help please.
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Aussie, firstly click on 'Modify message' at the bottom of your posting and when it opens delete the first line of your message (/Users/keithgarrod/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Originals/2011/8 May 2011).
Underneath the tick boxes below the message it says attach and a 'click box' that says "Choose File'. Click on that and it will open a window where you navigate to the file you want to post. Choose the file and then click 'OPEN'. This will select the file you want and take you back to your reply where the file name will appear alongside the 'Choose File' box.
Click on 'Save' at the bottom and that's it....... Done!
Hope this makes sense.
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I got all that BB thank you I just have to reduce the file.
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If you are stuck, email it to me, and I'll sort it and post it up for you. Paul
paul@earsmedia.co.uk - I can sort the size out too quite easily.
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I am so sorry for getting three copies on my posting it's been a struggle I tried to delete the second one and ended up with the third.
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That's done, Aussie. A very moving story.
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I am some what disappointed that I posted on remembrance day (thanks to the help from others) a photograph connected to this subject that has been debated over a long period & not even had a single comment on it.
I know that I struggled to get it on when I made my posting but I cannot believe that nobody has seen it or thought that it was not worth the paper that it was printed on.or not worth passing a comment on it. 
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Aussie a number of us have commented on it I think it got posted in two different threads perhas one of the mods can sort it out for you I know I made a commet as did others
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Just had a look and you do have two seperate threads this one and one entitled ARP messenger boy and there are a few comments in that one
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Paulears & every body i am so sorry for for my post of { disappointed)confusion all round created by me.
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Yep - don't worry about it at all, I don't think anyone is worried - I'm certainly not!
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Oh well.....The bunker has now gone.
They started knocking it down yesterday and as I just drove past and it is now just a hole in the ground with some rubble.
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I drove past it today...
Nothing above ground level...
Shame...
Even tho it was a useless eyesore...It was still a part of Lowestoft history...
It's a shame it couldn't have been converted into something else...
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