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Andre M
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A genuine question.
Is anyone aware of any 'Big Society' ventures by charities, social enterprises and voluntary groups ? this has was previously vaunted by Mr Cameron as the way to save former 'public services' that have had funding reduced or have been axed by councils.
There is a Big society minister and bank according to this article - Big Society Bank can help voluntary sector ( Link - http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/politics/big_society_bank_can_help_voluntary_sector_1_1005611) so I am wondering if this is working or just more Tory whitewashing.
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funkychick
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The public health dept in NHS should be a social enterprise in October - watch this space
no idea about anything else though havent heard of any others but I suppose it takes time to filter it ll through and do the business plans etc
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JollyJapes
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I think that one of the problems with this idea is simply that those people who would be willing to help out are 'already' volunteering their services to charities or other organisations. There are only so many hours in the day, and you can't force someone to donate their time and services if they dont want to - otherwise it wouldnt be voluntary. In my view, the idea is a non-starter.
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funkychick
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Social enterprises are not about volunteers they are paid workers as before but 'owned' and managed by themselves, they get Government funding for a period until they become self sufficient Well thats the idea I believe
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funkychick
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No Andre cut off in my prime haha but yes the idea is to TUPE workers
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They want to introduce volunteer bus drivers to run weekend services as wel.
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They want to introduce volunteer bus drivers to run weekend services as wel.
If that happened - what about the company's insurance for the 'volunteer drivers'? Perhaps they'd have to take out their own!
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robbie2010
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Why not go the whole hog and insist that all those who wish to be MPs will be 'volunteers' and all expenses will be met out of their own pockets. That I would consider as being a true, dedicated service to the country. Mind you I then suppose that will only be considered by the very rich!! - maybe that's what the 'elite' are aiming for!!
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A Scot who owns a little bit of Lowestoft
Education is what you get when you read the fine print - Experience is what you get when you don't!!
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simple.i got little card on my fridge and it says......IT would be nice if hospitals and schools had all the money they needed &the army had to hold jumbles sales to buy guns....
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the goverment is so far removed as to what people want or dont want.....they had The big Queastion on Sunday morning and all three people on the interview were in goverment positions in different parties..all three stated it was right we went to helped Libya but they did public poll and 80% of the people who phoned in were against it..i use to think mp's should get decent wage but i had total change of mind...
i guess we say goodbye to decent bus service
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funkychick
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Well this isnt anything to do with volunteer drivers but on three occassions last week I took my London family on Anglian buses Each journey the bus was on time to the minute, my family were really impressed with the service and I even heard the kids discussing how clean the buses were
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Aussie K
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I cannot see much happening on the big society nor do i expect much to happen, a better way and a new way must be found to keep essential services going, it is a must, even though money has to be peered off their budgets.
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Well, IMO, there are some +ve things happening behind the scenes that may pay off for Lowestoft. The towns council needs a kick up the Ass imo, but watch this space ;-)
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snowdrop
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we have good sevice at the moment but volunteers to drive i thought that was something they encouraged during times of war...daftest thing i heard this week volunteers to drive bus
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Aussie K
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Two ways that I can think of which could save all the services being provided. One is for 20% moving over to private industry and the remaining 80% working 5% harder or being 5% more efficient & that doesnt seem too difficult unless youre one of the 20%. The other being a 5% cut in salaries all round with no redundancies until such a time as 20% were able to get jobs in private industry.
Not a good choice either way,but the cut will have to occur.
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Aussie K
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Andree why on earth do you think that all the condems want to do is to throw people out of work, cannot you see that if they were in gain full employment they would no-doubt be lining thier pockets more, I will except that, but will you except that if we were ever able to get back to full gain full employment and a healthy balance of payments we as a nation would be able to afford the kind of services that both you & I would like to see, and that apply as I see it for all parties.
Secondly, what are your thoughts on how our government who ever they are can achieve these goals?
Please don't throw spanners in the works just plain simple language.
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funkychick
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Andre if you click quick reply at the bottom of the page and then go back to the post you are answering and click reply with quote, then the other post will be high lighted in the final box making it much cleareer to see who you are answering and which bits are yours.
I get muddled with which are your words and which are the persons you re answering
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OK Andre thats fine - give it a go though its an easy way of making the posts clear
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I think if you put the quote in and then copy paste the whole quote before removing any words then you can do two and your clipboard will have the quote so you can then do further quotes and remove different points.
I have done it that way on other boards running the same SMF
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There are NO strangers HERE ! Only Friends who have not yet met....
One cannot think well, sleep well,live well if one has not dinned well "virginia woolf"
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snowdrop
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cut the pay good idea,but make sure the mental hospitals and place of works have defib machines they be needed.
I kid you not,when i was lowly student nurse we had a condition called Fords supervisor syndrome we on take for area that had high dependency of employees from Fords,these men were paid poorly and worked very hard.It difficult balance but what we have now is as bad.
i would like to get my daughter afew hours aweek like bit of sweeping tea girl etc.the rules say at least 5 people depending on place of works should be employed,TRIed nhs, local authory WHO SHOULD etc she cant earn over twenty a week it all very sad when you get lazy oiks doing sweet f.a
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A lot of the charity shops will take on a disabled person to work I know its not money SD but may be good for her to feel important What about the Shaw Trust Milton Rd think they earn small wages there maybe
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i tried most of them in LT fc and they have their quota i am told...what lots of firms do is take someone on who has epilepsy or diabetes for a disability not seen and these days well controlled,that way they have the number of disabled people the law requires
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JollyJapes
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Age Concern on Station Square is always looking for volunteers. Dont think disabilities matter or come into it - we have a few disabled there already.
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snowdrop
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it could not be on the till or anything compilcated and one of her parents would pick her take and bring her home.but it would be nice if she could get alittle paid job tenner for hour or two somewhere.
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Aussie K
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Andree, I think this debate we were discussing is out of place in the debate lowestoft issues category it would be more in place in the debating chamber and it would be better if it was widened so others can join in.
I find it pointless for just you & I knocking our heads against a wall & making no progress it looks as if every one is fed up to the eye brows with just you & I bantering backwards & forwards with no other support to make it an interesting debate.
I wonder what others think?
As I see it a debate cannot succeed with every one agreeing with each other. I will carry on my lone quest being forthright in my views for the next four weeks & then I am off on a cruise for a couple of weeks, then I shall have to reflect whether to continue or to step aside & for me that would be dissapointing.
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Aussie K
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You have not been found wanting in raising serious points of view in all kinds of Social problems and i know you care so much for those who are deprived of the things that many of us take for granted as do I.
Because not enough people take part in these debates I have to agree with you for once that the debates get boring and stereotyped. I have to tread a long & lonely furrow being one who is among many who have opposite views as myself and I believe that one reason why there is not many on the right taking part is because of a great imbalance in the numbers with different political views.
I believe that despite my forceful ways on how i put over my point of view I am far more a socialist than many people on the left.
Of coarse, that you may not agree with.
Lets get more views.
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