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Hi guys a red arrow has crashed at bournemouth air festival. Not known what happened but it was coming in to land when it happened its on bbc news and sky news now. Still not known about the pilot i hope he is ok. Just though i would post it here as they were recently in lowestoft. Sad news.
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A Red Arrow aeroplane has crashed in Dorset following a display at the Bournemouth Air Festival. The fire service confirmed they were called to an air crash at 13:50 BST near Bournemouth International Airport. A BBC producer at the scene said he saw only eight of the nine Red Arrows RAF display team's aircraft land on the runway at the annual event. They had earlier taken part in a display over the seafront. No details are known about possible casualties.
BBC South Today producer Martin Webster said the plane was thought to have crashed in an open area at Throop village, near the Castlepoint shopping centre.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14602900
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Sky News has a similar report at http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16053735
A message posted at the bottom of that page by a reader is: “Just heard on our Local Radio Station that the Air Pilot was dragged from a river by a dog walker who saw it happened,looks like he had ejected THANKFULLY!! GOOD NEWS”
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Its been said it was Red 4 and he was pulled from the water.Lets hope all ends well.My thoughts are with his family ,who will be frantic till they know all details for certain.
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Red Arrows pilot killed in crash
Flt Lt Jon Egging, 33, is believed to have tried to eject only after guiding the RAF jet towards a field as it apparently suffered a failure following an aerobatic display.
But he was killed when the jet plunged into a field near the river Stour, just outside Bournemouth.
Flt Lt Egging, who lived in Rutland, Lincs, with his wife Emma, was the first Red Arrows pilot to die in a crash for 33 years.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8713429/Red-Arrows-pilot-killed-in-crash.html Link to full article.
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How sad. Our thoughts are with his family.
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A terrible tragedy, to think he was flying over Lowestoft last week!
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Sad indeed my thoughts and best wishes go out to his family.
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Very sad! The pilot didn't eject, he refused as the plane was heading for a village so he sacrificed himself to stear the plane into a field and save the lives of people in the village. He was thrown from the cockpit when the plane crashed. A true hero.
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nauticaljane
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totally agree Lpeek a true hero.My sincere thoughts and wishes to his family
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paulears
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I'd like to think he was more of a hero when flying over people attempting to shoot him down in a foreign country. It's ironic he survived that then died here in an accident - that's very difficult to deal with.
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Thats for sure 728 but has that been confirmed or is it supposition, one thing is for certain he was a brilliant pilot as they all are. There are some reports that 12 months ago these planes were withdrawn from service due to ejector seats failing I suppose we shall find this all out in due coarse from his radio communications, time will tell.
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Well it's on all the news articles about it... but it's not written on the MoD website or anything so it's possible... but not confirmed
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An awful lot of aviation enthusiasts listen in to the Red Arrows communications, so although they're keeping the info private for fairly obvious reasons, it will leak into the public domain.
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One of those news articles did say someone listening heard all 9 reds discussing the mayday call, and Jon refused to eject. Again... it's on the mirror, so you cant really take it an confirmation. It's only a matter of time before someone posts the actual sound clip of the mayday call.
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paulears
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If they do, then they're really, really stupid. Listening to military aircraft is tolerated, but anybody publishing the material has very clearly broken the law, so usually recordings of this kind have been kept within enthusiasts groups. Rather like the old days when people listened in to the Police - they knew people listened in, but as long as they kept it to themselves, it kind of was overlooked. Nowadays these things are secure, but oddly, the military do not encrypt their comms. In today's world, having private military data might not be viewed as quite so innocent. Military aircraft also don't routinely give themselves away with their height and position data, as civil aircraft do, but if you know how, you can easily locate them - which the authorities probably want kept quiet too.
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To be honest, i do not think it is fair to speculate, about it could be this or could be that, let them find the answer.
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The BBC speculate all the time, and rarely say sorry when they're wrong. Just lately they've turned to clairvoyance, putting thing that will be news later in the day in the early bulletins, before they actually happen!
A little digging, suggests a mayday was called and the others knew he'd gone down before they landed. Birdstrike is the likely cause, it appears.
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Sadly another pilot of the reds died today with an ejector seat problem my thoughts are with his family. 
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Yes, My thoughts are with his family and the other Red Arrows .Lets hope they can definately sort the problems out with these planes for the future safety of all
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I suspect it will simply be just an accident - one of the daily hazards of being a military pilot - and it would be a shame if the fallout got the Arrows disbanded.
Light aircraft crash regularly, and it's usually just local news - because it involves the Red Arrows it gets escalated by the media - in the same way the M25 crash has done. On the day that crash happened, 3 people died on Suffolk roads, I read. Nobody mentioned those poor people.
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I agree about other deaths,I expect if the total of accidents on Uk roads was published for that day it would exceed the M25 crash.As always my thoughts are with the loved ones of those lost and the victims badly injured and trying to rebuild their lives.I know of this experience first hand.
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I Haven't seen it mentioned here but this was not an in the air crash but something that happened on the ground, still very tragic though.
This is a snippet from The Telegraph.
The family of Flight Lieutenant Sean Cunningham said that he died fulfilling a lifetime dream to fly with the Red Arrows and said they hoped his life would be an inspiration to others.
Flt Lt Cunningham, was flung from the Hawk T1 aircraft while sitting on the runway at the team’s base at RAF Scampton, Lincs, during a training session on Tuesday.
The 35-year-old was airlifted to hospital but died on the way.
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paulears
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Plenty of rumours on the aviation forums - 'an uncommanded initiation of the Martin Baker Mk 10 ejector seat' - and they've grounded all the other aircraft with this seat - hawks, Tornados and Tucanos - which all have the same ejection seat.
The use of the word 'flung' does suggest it threw him out of the cockpit rather than being strapped to it - but we'll just have to wait.
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Have I missed something - but the reference to the M25 crash - surely this should be the M5?
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yep - well spotted, It was a test and you win the prize for observancy. Sorry about that.
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