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Tug
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Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Posted: 19 August 2011 at 09:26 PM »

Hello
Wonder can anybody tell me where Mariners lane was [not Mariners Score].
Doing a bit on the family tree & it came up in 1841 census.
Thanks for any help.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #1 Posted: 19 August 2011 at 10:08 PM »

Mariner's street is across the main road from Mariner's score but I have never heard of Mariner's Lane-maybe that's what the street was called back then.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #2 Posted: 19 August 2011 at 10:34 PM »

I think Meg may be right. In the Jack Rose/Dean Parkin book about the Beach Village entitled 'The Grit' there is a page which gives details of the 'Scores'. It states that Mariners Score is actually believed to be named after Samuel Mariner who once owned property there. Earlier it had been called Swan's Score due to the Swan Inn which stood there. I feel that this must be the location of Mariners Lane as this duality appears in some other documents which refer to an area of Lowestoft as being 'Mariners Lane OR Swan Lane'. I'll look up where I read this and post it later.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #3 Posted: 19 August 2011 at 10:56 PM »

Tug:  This can be found at http://www.familydeeds.org/NK41206.php

Suffolk and Norfolk Public Houses
Reconveyance dated 20 August 1862
Reference is made to the following people:-

Maurice Alexander   -  Surgeon of Lowestoft. Former occupant of a property part of which was later converted to a Tun house and the residue added to a Brewery office in Swan Lane or Mariners Lane, Lowestoft.

John Elph -  Owner or occupier of the 'Three Mariners' in Lowestoft and a storehouse, formerly a Tun house (the one above?) adjoining 'The Hole in the Wall' (they even had them in those days!!!!!).

William and George Everitt - Former occupants of property in Lowestoft, near the Hempland, comprising a Malthouse or Malting Office, Steep Room, Barley Chamber, Kiln, Drying House and other buildings and also other property in Swan Lane or Mariners Lane, including the 'Three Mariners' (mentioned above).


Hope this helps.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #4 Posted: 19 August 2011 at 11:41 PM »

Some further information for you Tug. I have identified  the location of Mariners Lane. On page 19 of Jack Rose's book 'Jack Rose's Lowestoft' (printed 1981), there is a map circa 1842, which shows that Mariners Lane intersected what was Cross Street (now demolished?) and Hempland. It started at the High Street (next to the Town Hall and was opposite Martin's Score ) and ran through to St.Margarets Plain/Thurston Road junction where the present 'First and Last ' pub is.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #5 Posted: 20 August 2011 at 08:38 AM »

 hello
Thank you for getting that information for me.
Silly boy i am.
Never thought to look in Jack's books.
We have all his books,as he was my late father-in-law.
It is all part of the Andrew/Patterson/Norman/Rose family tree i am doing.
Many thanks
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #6 Posted: 20 August 2011 at 02:56 PM »

That's OK Tug - glad to be of help. I met Jack on a number of occassions. I too have all of his books. Although I'm a 'foreigner' I've lived in Lowestoft since 1965 and have taken a great interest in the town and it's history. My wife is Lowestoft born and bred. I am also a keen family historian. My wife's maternal family were originally a Gt.Yarmouth family but quite a few of them moved to Lowestoft. One of my wife's uncles was the publican of the 'Rising Sun' in the old beach village for many years (George 'Bloater' Nicholson) - I'm sure Jack knew him well.
When I went into town this morning I made a point of checking some of the street names and Meg was correct in assuming that Mariners Street was originally named Mariners Lane (so it had really nothing to do with Mariner's Score after all - apart from probably been named after the same Samuel Mariner that I mentioned in a previous post).  It is now only a very short street and a 'dead end', as you probably know, as it was intersected by Jubilee Way when it was built. What was the 'western side' of the street is now all rebuilt with housing, with only short lengths of the adjoining Dove Street/Crown Street West joining on to St.Margarets Plain/Thurston Road. It may be worth your while visiting my old friend Ivan Bunn at the Records Office (in the Library) - He has a lot of photographs of that part of old Lowestoft and may well be able to identify the house your ancestors lived in.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #7 Posted: 20 August 2011 at 04:50 PM »

"Our" Meryl is Jack Rose's sister.His daughter Jackie was a member here at one time.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #8 Posted: 20 August 2011 at 08:41 PM »

Hello Meg & Robbie
Many thanks for your help. Thanks for having a look at the streets.
Jackie is my wife & Meryl is of course her auntie.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #9 Posted: 20 August 2011 at 09:17 PM »

Tell Jackie "hello" from me please.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #10 Posted: 20 August 2011 at 10:50 PM »

How nice! Isn't it such a small world!!!
My wife organises various events for The Oulton Methodist Wives Group and we have had Ivan Bunn round to our home on a number of occasions to present some slide shows of old Lowestoft. On his last visit it was all about that particular area of Lowestoft. It was presented in a 'how it was' and 'how it is now' sort of way. I recommend him to any group that has any interest in the town. Ivan has followed on from the most entertaining 'slide shows' that Jack Rose used to give, of which I have attended many.  Ivan actually lives in the area under discussion - Crown Street West. His shows cover most of old Lowestoft - the erosion of the cliffs in the Kirkley area is most interesting.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #11 Posted: 21 August 2011 at 09:06 AM »

Very small world indeed Wink Hello Tug, welcome aboard.
From obviously another member of the Rose/Andrews/Patterson/Norman clan wave
Bigs hugs to Jackie
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #12 Posted: 21 August 2011 at 12:58 PM »

Hello Rosie
Now i wonder who you are lol,lol
Now long before the big day for you.
Big hugs here as well.
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Re: Mariners Lane/Swan Lane « Reply #13 Posted: 21 August 2011 at 01:00 PM »

Hello Meg
Jackie as well as can be.She says hello.
Right better get back to the family tree.
Many thanks again
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