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Can you provide a link to the article, please?
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ATHEISM IS A NON-PROPHET ORGANIZATION
cyclelowestoft.blogspot.com
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Thanks 728 & James - much appreciated - as I'm too mean to buy newspapers! 
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There are NO strangers HERE ! Only Friends who have not yet met....
One cannot think well, sleep well,live well if one has not dinned well "virginia woolf"
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Unilateral Declaration of Independence, I think.
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Looks like I will be moving from CC as I cant afford to live in a Town!!!! 
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There are NO strangers HERE ! Only Friends who have not yet met....
One cannot think well, sleep well,live well if one has not dinned well "virginia woolf"
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Maybe they will want devloution from Lowestoft soon
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A link to the Journal news item posted above is already on the Carlton Colville entry on Wikipedia.
I wonder who got that on there so quickly. (see Reference 2 at the foot of the page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlton_Colville
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Perhaps a village becomes a town when its population goes over a certain number I think both CC and Pakefield were villages in their own right long before they became known as suburbs of Lowestoft
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I was just speaking to a friend who knows one of the new "Council". Apparently they wanted to become a town to get more notice from Suffolk County Council. Now having town status SCC will support the area more in development.
I'm not really sure how that's going to affect other areas, yes it is good for CC to become even nicer, but really, it's already one of the nicest areas of Lowestoft. The only thing it really does lack is shops.
I'm not sure what it will do to Lowestoft, if SCC spend more money in CC, will it take it away from the main Town center?
funky... I don't think population has much to do with anything any more - Not sure though! C/C has a population of around 7,000, whereas Lowestoft is something like 80,000. Ipswich has something like 120,000 and still isn't considered a city.
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No, but it may take it away from the town centre.
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Unfortunately it doesn't matter how much money is thrown at Carlton Colville, it still won't give the majority of it any character. It's made up of just too many bland, faceless housing estates.
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I told my girlfriend I had a job in a bowling alley. She said 'Tenpin?' I said, 'No, permanent.'
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Ipswich has something like 120,000 and still isn't considered a city.
The size of a town - including its population - has nothing to do it achieving city status. In 2001 (the most recent census results available) there were 21 UK cities with populations of less than 100,000 - the smallest being St David’s, Wales, with a population of 1,797.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smallest_cities_in_the_United_Kingdom
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What is a Village?
by Dr Greg Stevenson
It is estimated that there are over ten thousand villages in Britain, yet defining the term 'village' isn't as simple as it may at first sound. When does a hamlet become a village? And when does a village become a town?
Strictly speaking the term 'village' comes from the Latin 'villaticus', which roughly translates as 'a group of houses outside a villa farmstead'. Today a village is understood as a collection of buildings (usually at least 20) that is larger than a hamlet, yet smaller than a town, and which contains at least one communal or public building. This is most commonly the parish church, though it can be a chapel, school, public house, shop, post-office, smithy or mill. Villagers will share communal resources such as access roads, a water supply, and usually a place of worship.
A hamlet is a smaller grouping of buildings that doesn't necessarily have any public or service buildings to support it. A significant difference is that it won't have a parish church like a village does, and most hamlets contain only between three and twenty buildings.
The point at which a village becomes a town is difficult to determine, and is probably best defined by those who live there. However, since the Middle Ages the term 'town' has been a legal term that refers to the fact that the community has a borough charter. The situation is confused by the fact that there are many town-like suburban communities calling themselves villages (for example, Oxton Village in Birkenhead), as well as designed suburban 'villages' such as those built under the Garden Village Movement.
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You have to apply for city status, the queen will grant city status next year. Towns around here who have entered are Corby, Chelmsford, Colchester, Milton Keynes. No Ipswich though, and a few others that i cannot remember. I think Milton Keynes will get it.
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I think Ipswich got annoyed of applying and getting refused every time, haha.
I wouldn't be surprised if Colchester got it.
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Probably won't be any of ours then,if its only one I would have plumped for Colchester because of its historical connections
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When I was a youngster I lived in Long Road and the Carlton Colville sign was part-way between the nold Elmtree Road crossroads and Spendloves corner. My first house was in Rosedale Gardens and many peopel on that estate named their address as Carlton Colville. I don't really know where it starts and ends. It used to be from the Carlton end of long road to around Gisleham corner.
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Yes thats correct frankie. I remember when that estate was first built and we used to bike on there and try and find a way out lol. God carlton did used to be a village you had to drive through fields to get to it but with todays building going on i still say it will only be a matter of years before you can drive from lowestoft to beccles without a single field it will all be housing its starting to get that way now you only have to look at the new road near the transport museum and see the new builds all over.
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Am I wrong in thinking Norwich used to be the second city once?
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I think Dunwich used to be known as second city or port back in the middle ages but that maybe something completely different (as they said on Monty Python).
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Just had a little look on google and it told me :-
AD 1200 – Norwich: the second largest medieval city
Norwich was the second largest city in Medieval Britain:
Never too sure with my memory,- James I think Dunwich did come into the running though I'll have to google that now
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fc: don't wear yourself out Googling! 
“Dunwich was the capital of East Anglia 1500 years ago but the harbour and most of the town has since disappeared due to coastal erosion. Its decline began in 1286 when a sea surge hit the East Anglian coast, and it was eventually reduced in size to the village it is today. There is a project underway to reveal the 'lost' city with high-tech underwater cameras.
At its height Dunwich was one of the largest ports in Eastern England, with a population of around 3000, eight churches, five houses of religious orders, three chapels and two hospitals.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunwich
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Yes thats it Trigger I did know the history but didnt have it at my fingertips If I remember rightly most of the villages and small towns in Suffolk were highly important because of the wool trade Blythburgh has a huge church for a tiny village and Lavenham I think was an important trading centre too
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Even Kessingland!
"There has been a settlement here since Palaeolithic times. Between the Hundred River and Latmer Dam was once a large estuary which was used by the Vikings and Romans. The sea provided the village with its main livelihood, and at one time the village paid a rent of 22,000 herrings to their Lords, which then made it more important than nearby Lowestoft."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessingland
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Corton was more important than Lowestoft. Things looked up for us when they bkroke Lake Lothing through to the sea and formed a harbour.
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Dunwich was the capital of East Anglia 1500 years ago but the harbour and most of the town has since disappeared due to coastal erosion.
Was that due to gravel extraction? Or global warming?
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I bought the second house built in Rosedale Gardens (road not estate) but I think Elmdale was the first full road of houses. I was surprised how big Gisleham is, Gisleham corner is at the back end of Carlton near what was the electrical shop but the first row of terraced houses on what was the old A12 towards Pontins are also listed as being in Gisleham.
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