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Isn't a wreck going to be exactly that, a wreck? There's a wreck in Lake Lothing isn't there, with the boiler and a few spars still visible, and nobody feels it worth preserving. If the wreck was intact, of some historic value, and well known, then maybe there's some sense in preserving it - but the sea's a bit rough there so what would it be? A few timbers and bits of old metal?
Is that the reason they always warn people not to swim in that area?
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maybe not, the tide has exposed it
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is that the one Freelance alerted us to some time back if so it appears to be of historical significance
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how old is it..i was under impression that quite afew boats and ships off Lt.even old sailing ships and battle ships
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is that the one Freelance alerted us to some time back if so it appears to be of historical significance
Yes, FC. I put some photos of it on this site a while ago. I can't find any of them at the moment, but I probably will.
It's only visible at Spring Tides and is probably from the 1800's.
It doesn't look a "mucher" for preserving, but then - nor did the Mary Rose. It is just a skeleton hull.
I find it comical that it has been there for maybe a couple of hundred years and they want to cause disruption removing it in the busiest months of Childrens' Corner when the kids are on holiday. The usual kind of organisation.
BTW - putting it in a museum would cost a large amount of money, because of the need to pump chemicals into the wood under pressure to save it from disintegrating when it gets the air permanently. It's an expensive job. Probably not worth it.
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A disruption, yes, but a crowd puller too.
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Found the photos.
Not very spectacular for preserving.
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This is perhaps a bit simplistic, but why not wait for low tide and just dig it out with a jcb, it doesn't look like an amazingly complicated job - or have I misunderstood the scale?
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Its called the Lily of Devon and has been on our beach for 82 years
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'Lily of Devon' is absolutely correct, as I researched that name when I first saw the wreck.
Here's a short report that I had published in a commercial fishing weekly last September.
Other remains are said to be of a French fishing vessel.
12.9.2010
Fishing Heritage Revealed On Lowestoft Beach.
A combination of extra low tides before the Autumn Equinox, and the continued depletion of sand from the beach have uncovered the remains of what is thought to be an old sailing fishing smack. It has been seen on a few occasions, but normally buried in sand and not revealed at low tides.
Many who live in Lowestoft have never seen this before, and will only see it now on the lowest of low tides.
Preliminary research suggests that it may be the smack “Lily of Devon”, driven ashore in bad weather, but this is by no means certain. The wreck may have been there since the 1800’s or early 1900’s.
There are also the more deteriorated remains of a similar vessel upturned and some more unrecognisable timbers that could be a third hulk.
In the days of hundreds of sailing vessels using Lowestoft harbour, if a vessel missed the harbour entrance when there was an easterly wind, it could easily end up driven on to the beach - and many did.
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Surely it would need to be treated with much more care than a JCB I wouold imagine it would just break up aftre all these years unless a great deal of care was taken in its removal
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A cheaper way to get rid is to put a notice on it say do not touch. It will be gone in a couple of days.
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A cheaper way to get rid is to put a notice on it say do not touch. It will be gone in a couple of days.
The sign yes
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Perhaps free fire wood might help to remove it.
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unable read any further back than fc so going that post they getting jbc to remove this wreck.seem shame do that to old boat.why they not do it before.has it beach now.and why dont they remove the one at oulton
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Freelance, this is really interesting.
Was the Lily of Devon a Lowestoft boat (maybe not with a name like that)? I wonder if any of her crew show up on any of the census reports over the latter 19th early 20th century. Some relatives may be able to shed some light on the detail. Maybe even have some photos of her in her glory days.
Oh if only that wreck could talk, what a tale it could tell!
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Crew list for "Lily of Devon" from 1881 census. She was in Lowestoft at the time but birthplace of Master and Mate indicate that she may originally be from Kent.
Further research required on that.
Vessel: "Lily Of Devon"
Alfred J. BUSH M 26 M Ramsgate, Kent, England Master
Edward WALKER U 22 M Margate, Kent, England Mate
Charles HOWES U 21 M Barking, Essex, England AB Seaman
John SHARMAN U 17 M Lowestoft, Suffolk, England O Seaman
Henry BELL U 17 M Ipswich, Suffolk, England Cook
First column is name
Second indicates married/unmarried
Third is age
Fourth is Gender
Fifth is place of birth
Sixth is occupation
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Further research shows she may have been LT96 and registered at Lowestoft
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The vessel apparently got beached in November 1927 in extremely bad weather.
Albert Spurgeon, the coxswain of the lifeboat, was awarded a silver medal for gallantry for the rescue of the crew.
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Were all those lives lost they were all babies bless them?
No SD someone on here suggested a JCB and I said no to that idea
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Sorry free I m using someone elses computer very briefly and didnt go back over the older posts
bit af a 'dah' moment there eh
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i bet the sea in our area could tell a story.i love to know what and where.i wonder some of metal bits i find what the story is.i found ww2 motor bomb box on beach.have to wonder what and where contents are
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26 was very young to be a master. I wonder how many years experience he had.
I would not be surprised if he started at sea when he was 12 or so.
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26 was very young to be a master. I wonder how many years experience he had.
When we had a fishing industry many of our trawler skippers (masters) were in their twenties.
One who was 21 at the time was interviewed on a David Dimbleby BBC programme, with the presenter being absolutely flabbergasted that this young skipper was earning more, at 21 years of age, than the Admiral of the Fleet of the Royal Navy. From that day onwards the skipper was nicknamed 'Admiral'.
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