rembrandt
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We are all aware(or should be) that bill posting is illegal and also unsightly. Trade signboards are tolerated for as long as the firm is working on the property where the board is displayed.
There is however, a new phenomenon appearing on our streets. Semi permanent plastic signs are being screwed to walls and fences all over town. The main perpetrators of this "crime"appear to be aerial erectors, although I have seen builders, electricians, drive layers and plumbers advertising in this way. I am aware that in these constrained times it is costly to advertise through normal channels, but I do think this is a step too far.
What do you legal eagles think?
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funkychick
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Well I m no legel eagle but I ve noticed it and they are there for ever, a neighbour of mine ha had one for ome building extention on the wall for near enough three year do they get paid to advertied it on their house wall
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keiths
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We sometimes use advertising boards (but would never just stick them anywhere), you normally give the customer a 10 - 20% discount depending on their location.
I've also noticed the "fly" boards going up all over town, there are quite strict laws relating to the display of any advertising boards. The council can charge the company for illegal displaying, I also think it looks a like desperation when you go putting them everywhere.
I'll see if I can find the legal guidelines... It's available freely online.
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malcolm
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You used to need planning permission for some sign boards.
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Forever Yellow
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vinnyboy33
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Agree with keiths on this one.My friend had a drive done and an aerial fitted and they were told a price.Then later they were told they would get a 20% discount if they allowed them to put a board on their wall to advertise the work they had done.It was on the understanding they keep it there for a year so obviously they took that option and made a saving its all legal apparently.
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Old Spice
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Four or five months ago a large metal sign appeared on the building next to me,jutting out to be visible to anyone on the road or path outside saying "Let by Olivers" with their phone number and web site details
This is on Waveney Road a 'conservation' area where in theorey any such signs are banned.No planning permission has ever been applied for.
If there are rules they should apply to everyone.
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snowdrop
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council tax rulings on that so my husband says
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Old Spice
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The sign is still there projecting out from the building.
It makes a total mockery of the so called conservation area status of this road which only seems to apply to certain peoples buildings.
I think that like far too much of what goes on in Lowestoft its not so much what you know as who.
I wonder how long any such sign I put up would last.
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Old Spice
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I have now asked and was told I can have an advertising sign on my shop as long as it's small and behind the glass,because and I quote" This is a conservation area". Odd when you look down this road or Suffolk road at all the other signs.
Tunnel vision at the planning office.
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vinnyboy33
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Yes one rule for one and another rule for another not fair OS typical council.
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Old Spice
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Very true,I had a phone call years ago from the conservation team threatening me with all sorts of action because I was painting the shop door without permission.The fact I was painting it the same colour seemd to make no difference.In the finish I told them to go away.
Because of the same 'team' sticking their oar in,I had to pay to have my satellite dish put up at the back of the property and route all the cables all the way through the building.Mustn't spoil the appearance of the conservation area.Next door there are three dishes all nearly touching one another put up after the aggro I had and been they've there a couple of years at least.
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You have to have planning permission for advertising signs but I think you are OK as long as the sign is on the property of the business that is being advertised. When I worked at the holiday village near Beccles Road we put a small sign saying "Shop" with an arrow pointing in the direction of our site shop. It was a nice sign about 2 feet high and a foot square and was placed near where the holiday cruisers came into moor up near the thatched boathouse. The council told us to take it down as we hadn't got planning permission. We said it was helpful to holiday-makers who wouldn't know where the nearest shop was - it wouldn't do us any harm either. The council sent round a planning officer who was on temporary loan from London, he told us that we would have to apply for planning permission for our sign but, we could put a sign on the gable end of one of our holiday bungalows which was in clear view from that spot. So, to make a long story longer, the 2-foot sign got binned and was replaced with a 12 foot sign which was perfectly legal. Personally, we preferred the smaller sign.
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Scorpio
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The sign is still there projecting out from the building.
It makes a total mockery of the so called conservation area status of this road which only seems to apply to certain peoples buildings.
I think that like far too much of what goes on in Lowestoft its not so much what you know as who.
I wonder how long any such sign I put up would last.
As you feel so strongly on issues like this, especially in the so called conservation area where you live, why don't you take photos of every breach you find & post them onto your shop windows where they can be read by any passer by from the street? And put comments there too, like the comments you post to this site?
Or compile a dossier of photos & facts & sent it to the Journal to go under a big headline - 'How can this be allowed?'
Or stand for Andrew Draper's seat on WDC. Not make exuses, just do it Just think, if you did that (& won) you could control the balance of power!
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Old Spice
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I'm too busy and too selfish to run for any sort of office.I'm learning too that if you kick up a fuss then all sorts of decisions go against you,and that the vast majority of people might tell you they'll be behind you but fail to tell you it will be a very long distance behind when push comes to shove.
The whole idea of making this a conservation area was a farce in the first place but the Lowestoft old pals act seems to guarantee that most aren't affected by the lunacy of it.
Putting pictures in the Journal,my shop window or anywhere else wont make it any different.
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JustStu
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What did the conservation team say when you reported the sat dishes being put up next door?
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I told my girlfriend I had a job in a bowling alley. She said 'Tenpin?' I said, 'No, permanent.'
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snowdrop
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where is this conservation area
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snowdrop
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ohhhhhhhhhh i see.what is it that makes it conservation area
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Old Spice
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What did the conservation team say when you reported the sat dishes being put up next door?
As I didn't speak to them about the dishes,nothing.
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Old Spice
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The sign board outside the old Hamiltons is a ruddy nuisance when the winds blowing,I though obstructing the pavement was an offence but its there permanently chained to a lamp post.
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