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kdtubby

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Church Road Junior School « Posted: 13 December 2010 at 05:17 PM »

The last time I attended Church Road Junior School was at the end of May 1940. I left for foreign parts on Sunday 2nd. June ( Langwith Junction) but returned to civilisation (Norwich) early in November 1940.
I have never returned to the bustling metropolis of Eastern England (Lowestoft).
Perhaps, some kind native of the above mentioned paradise could inform me of the fate of my former seminary, as I can find no mention in current educational records.?
with anticipatory thanks.
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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #1 Posted: 14 December 2010 at 08:01 PM »

Hi KDT. My wife attended Church Road Girls School when she returned from evacuation at the end of the war. Apparently prior to 1940 there was a Junior School and separate boys and girls schools. In 1940 the pupils were evacuated to Derbyshire and the Junior School absorbed into the Derbyshire Authority. The buildings on Church Road were then used as a store and were requisitioned by the military until the Church Road Primary school opened in 1943. The girls school continued as Church Road Girls and all boys from that area went to Roman Hill Boys School. In 1988 the school became Harris Middle School and it remains so at this moment in time. So it's still there, with plenty of added on buildings. It stands as you know on the north side of the bend in Church Road nearly opposite Winnipeg Road, The small 'drying green' on the other side of the road is also still there. and is a play area with swings etc., There are however plans afoot to change the education system to a two tier system in Suffolk. What is planned for the Church Road site I am unaware of. My wife has a small booklet about the history of the 'schools' (from 1896 onwards) that she received when she attended the centenary celebrations in 1996. This book states that your headteacher in 1940 was a Miss Annie M. Royce with a Mr L. O. Price as deputy. There is also a photo of a Christine and Ann Smith with their mother standing outside Langwith Junction School, Derbyshire taken in 1940. I don't know if there are any copies of the book available (it has no ISBN number) but you may try contacting the Harris Middle School and they may be able to get you one. I'll try and take a photo sometime and post it on here for you. Hope this has been helpful.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #2 Posted: 15 December 2010 at 06:22 AM »

I started school there just after the war (the second one!) - there were two small buildings (St Margaret’s Road end) which were separate classrooms. Most important memory there was a) I was appointed Milk Monitor, and b) one day, our teacher told us that her name had changed and had gone from being a Miss Bannister to Mrs Barnard (think they’re the right way round!). Although I never understood why!

Then I went to the Big School - and my form teachers included Miss Morling, Mrs Cook, and Mr Pye. The boys’ surnames for one year (think it was Mr Pye’s class) was: Alger, Brereton, Butler, Freeman, George, Golder, Gooch, Howlett, Lincoln, Morgan, Mullender, Prettyman, Scott, Thompson, Thompson, Want, Weaving.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #3 Posted: 15 December 2010 at 11:02 AM »

Thank you for your replies. I well remember Miss Royce ( or The Witch, as we used to call her) she always carried a long cane, which she had no hesitation in using.
When I started school at Church Road Infants in Sept 1938(aged 6) it was situated in the "Tin Hut" at the bottom of the playground. where we used slates to write upon.. I moved to the Junior school in 1939 and was evacuated to 1, the Crescent Langwith Junction, together with my brother, Bryan, aged 9. where we stayed for 6 months before returning to my mother's home in Norwich. The last bomb that fell on Norwich,6/11/43, landed in the middle of my bed! Those were the Days!!
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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #4 Posted: 22 December 2010 at 07:12 PM »

Hi Robbie 2010 I enjoyed reading your post about Church Road school as I was evacuated from there ,I think in 1940, long long time ago, and I was at the time in the senior girls, while I was there, I thought it was just the senior girls school, but not sure now, by reading kdtubby`s post that he was there in 1940 albeit much younger than I, did the school change at all around evacuation time, I would love to know how things went around that time, I also went to Langwith Junction k d.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #5 Posted: 22 December 2010 at 10:05 PM »

Where was/is Langwith Junction I m so young I ve never heard of it


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #6 Posted: 22 December 2010 at 10:31 PM »

My own curiosity prompted me to look for Langwith Junction, FC, and it is a place near Shirebrook, Derbyshire.

That's your geography lesson for today! Cheesy

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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #7 Posted: 23 December 2010 at 05:44 AM »

Well done, Sir! And - if you look immediately below the letters “ion” of Junction - you’ll see the abbreviation “Sch”! I suspect that maybe Sunny was evacuated there - we await an update!

Bb: I hereby award you the Sherlock Holme’s Deerstalker (complete with ear muffs) for your detective work! Grin


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #8 Posted: 23 December 2010 at 07:48 AM »

Many thanks BB I could have done that myself couldnt I? I thought it sounded like another school they went to in Lowestoft area after Church Rd


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #9 Posted: 23 December 2010 at 07:41 PM »

Thank you Trigger, I gratefully accept the award. laugh

Here is a picture of 1, The Crescent, Langwith Jct. referred to in an earlier post by kdtubby. Hope it brings back memories for him/her. (picture curtesy of Google Maps)

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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #10 Posted: 24 December 2010 at 10:23 AM »

When the photo' of 1, the Crescent arrived I was on the point of sending the attached view of the area. It appears that Langwith Junction has not yet transmogrified into anything more modern . I remember that my brother and myself thought that we had moved back a century when we arrived in Gas lit houses, where piles of coal were dumped in gateways( of miners houses) and the people spoke a foreign language, Thee and though, "shall though side the pots" (clear the table) and best of all " Gie oer, i'll ding your tabhole' ( kindly desist or I will clip your ear)Still we did not stay long enough to turn Native.
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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #11 Posted: 24 December 2010 at 11:39 AM »

Hi Sunny. Thanks for your comments re; my little write up on the school. I have no connection with the school - in the 1940s I was running around Scotland in my short trousers!. My wife lived in nearby Reeve Street and attended Church Road Girls School after the war was over, until 1953. We married in 1962 in Lowestoft and I've lived here since my demob in 1965. As a keen local historian and having some information to hand in the form of the booklet from the now Harris School that I mentioned (which now occupies the site) and info from my wife, I thought I'd just post it to help KDT and others like yourself. Hopefully the information is correct.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #12 Posted: 24 December 2010 at 02:02 PM »

Thanks Robbie yes it was good to hear of the info: thanks, and that map is very clear B B , I was lodged in Shirebrooke first, and later moved to Langwith Junction, I guess it was called that funky as it was a railway junction with bridge and I was sent to a house right by the bridge, but I cant remember what the road was called, I remember the people and their daughter who was my age, and I went to see her last year and it was nice to talk of the fun days we had, but she wasnt too well then, and I heard just a few days ago that she had died, so it was lovely that I saw her when I did. It did seem a strange world at first there as k d says, I couldnt understand them for a long time, but I was happy with them which was the main thing. Happy Christmas all.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #13 Posted: 06 May 2011 at 02:31 PM »

Robbie 2010, you say that the school that is the Harris Middle School aquirred this name in 1988?
This is not true, I went to the Harris Middle School in 1982 and my two older brothers and my older sister before me. (And my oldest brother is nearly 50). It even had the Name Harris when it was a girls school, as my mother went there.
The date 1988, is more in tune with the closure of One of the Roman Hill Schools.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #14 Posted: 06 May 2011 at 02:55 PM »

Hi Smiley
That is good information about Church Road Girls school, does it still look the same as when I went there, the actual building I mean, I loved it there, I was in the senior girls, when they took us one day to the station and sent us on to Shirebrook, (evacuation). Now when I was young I went to Roman Hill infants and Roman Hill junior, was next door, they were separated by high railings in the playground, and we used to look through at each other, infants and Juniors and chat. My brother who was older went to Roman Hill Seniors school, which was just further along the road and turn right and go up a hill, I used to walk up there from Juniors to meet him and walk home with him, are those three schools still going, or rather are the school buildings the same as they were then, that was back in the late 30`s early 40`s Smiley, would love to know?


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #15 Posted: 06 May 2011 at 02:59 PM »

I think the boy's school is still there.My cousin Betty was married to Mr Page the woodwork teacher at the boy's school.The other schools have been razed and I don't know if anything else has been built on the site.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #16 Posted: 06 May 2011 at 04:04 PM »

Hi Sunny, the main school building and the assembly hall are still the same as when i went there, There used to be a load of prefab classrooms on the lower end play ground when I was there or near the "rose garden" as we fondly called it, but these are long gone. I know that they have built quite a bit onto it since I left, but the main building of the school is very much unchanged.
The last time I went passed there about 8 months ago, You could see this picture made from busted bits of pottery/slate/stone on the wall that faces on to the play park across the road (corner of Winnie Peg Road)
I couldn't beleive it was still there! That's what my year done in the summer of 1984 during our activites week!!!
I remember we done a Lowestoft walk, visiting the Old Smoke House, Lowestoft Ice Co. and taking in certain building designs.
We Finished up on Corton Beach and was asked to collect any interesting stones etc for the purpose of making this picture...Oh how the memories come flooding back to such carefree times..lol.
My Head Master at the Time was a Mr. Arnold Morgan, a Very Stern, but fair Welsh man, who done credit to the school. Grin


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #17 Posted: 06 May 2011 at 05:06 PM »

I noted that you said one of the Roman Hill schools closed in1988 smiley, do you know which one it was.? On reflection that map you put on here is so precise B B ,thanks for that it has Shirebrook on ,where I was billeted first with an old miner and his wife, (retired) , and then I was swapped to a younger family in Langwith Junction near the Railway bridge, I have just been memorising it and the memories there, thanks.

Thanks for that info smiley, it must have been a lovely feeling seeing that picture that you did all those years ago, I can just imagine it.

Meg is that the senior boys school at the top of the hill that is still there? well it was `senior boys` in 1939 before the war broke out.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #18 Posted: 06 May 2011 at 07:12 PM »

That's the one Sunny.It was still there the last time we were in Lowestoft but that was a few years ago.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #19 Posted: 07 May 2011 at 12:02 AM »

I was at Church Road boys school in 1940 and was evacuated with my two sisters who were at the girls school.
I recall arriving at this school in Langwith ( or was it shire brook) and we were all directed to get into lines in the play ground along with our brothers & sisters in order to get moved out to various villages & /or small towns. I thought i was being clever (& havant changed since) I got into a different line to my two sisters, They went to Shirebrooke & I ended up in Pleasley.
Maybe about 20 or thirty of us on arriving at Pleasley stood on in this class room while coal minors & farmers were choosing who they wanted, I and my friend did not want to be separated so we were one of the last to be offer a home.
Our first school was in a small room which was in New Houghton with Miss Mary Morling as our teacher.

My wife was at Langwith Junction.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #20 Posted: 07 May 2011 at 06:14 AM »

Quote from: Smiley71 on 06 May 2011 at 02:31 PM

You are right Smiley my son did a year there at Harris Middle in 1980. It did used to be Harris Girls school


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #21 Posted: 07 May 2011 at 12:05 PM »

What was your wife`s name AussieK and do you know the name of the people who she was with at Langwith Junction ?


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #22 Posted: 07 May 2011 at 12:12 PM »

Thanks Meg when we get back home I would like to have a look around there!

I cant remember any boys at Church road school when I was there as a senior girl in 1939, and I cant remember the date when we were all evacuated, but it didnt seem very long to me, after the war was declared early September.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #23 Posted: 07 May 2011 at 12:32 PM »

Aussie K.
I read your note with interest. My brother and myself went to Langwith Junction and were billeted with Mr and Mrs Newey and Peter age 9 at 1, The Crescent.
We attended the nearby school where, one day in september there was a big scare. The local children were hiding behind the school building. frightened because there was a German Soldier standing at the Gate. Being rather more adventurous, my brother and myself went to look and to ourt surprise saw our father in full mimitary uniform complete with revolver at the hip, was waiting for us. The Locals were most impressed as they had never previously laid eyes on a bitish Soldier.
We left l j in November 1940,
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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #24 Posted: 07 May 2011 at 09:23 PM »

That was an interesting story kdtubby, I was there just after you left ,I went to Shirebrook first with an elderly couple, and then later to L J , I think just before Christmas 1940, as I remember all the presents and the tree we had a very nice time.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #25 Posted: 07 May 2011 at 10:19 PM »

Sunny, My wife's maiden name was Cox, Joan and she lived at first in compton street with Mr & Mrs west who had a daughter named Pat, then she moved into Devenshire drive with a Mrs emery before she returned home.
Her brothers John & Derick lived with a Mrs bryant in Cavindish street.
But I lived in Pleasley.
Have you been back to have a look around It hasnt altered much.


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Re: Church Road Junior School « Reply #26 Posted: 09 May 2011 at 06:00 PM »

Thanks Aussie K, I cant recall that name, but my sister was also billeted along there so I will ask her if she recalls the name, she did know more people than I did, I will call her soon, if she does know I will tell you, yes we went up there 2 years ago and as you say not much had changed either at Shirebrook or Langwith Junction just new people in the same houses at Shirebrook, at least we did feel safer there, but it took a while to get used to them at first.


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