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Thinking of retiring to the area « Posted: 23 September 2010 at 08:55 AM »

Hi everyone. I'm thinking of retiring to the Lowestoft area in a few years and as I have come into a bit of money, I was thinking of buying a house in the area that I could rent out now and move into in a few years when I am ready. I don't trust estate agents (who does) so I thought I'd ask the people who live in the area where would be the nicest places to look and where I should avoid (I don't like new houses on new estates btw). I would like a small place (2 bedrooms) for about 120 thousand which would be handy for shopping and where someone would rent from me for a few years. I quite like the look of Oulton village, is this a good area? Can you help me please?

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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #1 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 09:12 AM »

From the little I know, I would actually suggest somewhere between Pakefield and Kessingland.  Nice and quiet, peaceful, but still easy access to things like the beach and bus routes.  And still easy to rent out too. 
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #2 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 09:53 AM »

Hello and welcome to LOL  wave

Do you live near enough to make a few visits before you buy? That way you can get a good feel for the area. We all have different ideas of what is a good area and what is not.

Nothing wrong with Estate Agents if you listen to what they say. You do not have to agree with them but they just might come up with a view point you have not thought of.

Happy hunting.  wave
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #3 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 03:28 PM »

Go on line and peruse the local paper Waveney Advertiser has many more house adverts than the Journal I agree with Cyber Pakefield is a lovely area or Corton, Gunton Oulton Broard plus any of the outskirt villages You can also go to property sites online to have a good look. Google street maps and head away from town centre

Pakefield would be my fiirst choice as you are near the beach and  in a lovley little area
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #4 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 03:34 PM »

I agree pakefield very nice area to look at.i retired here (early),i would't want go carlton colville to me that area lacks soul but that personel feeling...the places been mention are very nice and in your price range
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #5 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 03:47 PM »

Yes, Pakefield would be my choice too.  I live here and love it.  You aren't far from the beach either.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #6 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 03:56 PM »

the beach good selling point.i can see the sea from my bedroom and hear it at night i love it.i came down here quite afew times before buying.i sat on the front near my house watched where sun came up how many children in area shops etc etc
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #7 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 03:56 PM »

I live in Pakefield and its wonderful, not to far away from town. Loads of shops and a short walk into town along the beach is nice in the summer Smiley
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #8 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 06:03 PM »

Thanks for the replies so far. I hope everyone is as nice as you lot if I do decide to move to the area. Pakefield seems to be a popular place so far. I will come and look soon but as I won't have too much time I wanted to get some views from people living there so I don't waste too much time looking in the wrong places. Is the central Lowestoft area a no no? I've looked on Rightmove and there are some nice looking 2 bed houses there for less than 100 thousand. Maybe there is a reason why they are cheaper there?
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #9 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 06:04 PM »

Central Lowestoft is good
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #10 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 06:08 PM »

No central Lowestoft isnt good to live in

Like any town or city the reason the houses are cheaper is because the area in the middle of a town is not anything like as nice as on the edges  I wouldnt recommend it
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #11 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 06:23 PM »

I've lived in central Lowestoft, now live in Pakefield.  I much prefer Pakefield.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #12 Posted: 23 September 2010 at 06:41 PM »

I like Pakefield, Oulton is good, central Lowestoft is ok but i really think you would be better in Pakefield  hello Good luck with your choice
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #13 Posted: 09 October 2010 at 12:12 PM »

again I'd say pakefield for retirement. Oulton is lovely but if you want easy access to town it's a bit out the way, whereas pakefield is just 1 road to town (although a very long one! lol), but easy to catch a bus! Smiley

Carlton Colville is a great place, where I grew up, lots of community there, but it's more for new families i think, lots of new estates.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #14 Posted: 09 October 2010 at 03:46 PM »

I think that should read Carlton Colville used to be a lovely place before it became saturated with estates
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #15 Posted: 09 October 2010 at 03:51 PM »

I think that should read Carlton Colville used to be a lovely place before it became saturated with estates


Do you want to change that to Carlton Colville used to be a lovely place before it became saturated with heartless and bland estates

I know I live there......
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #16 Posted: 09 October 2010 at 04:00 PM »

Sorry Nikkai I didnt mean to offend anyone but I just remember what a lovely little village Carlton Colville used to be with a character of it s own
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #17 Posted: 09 October 2010 at 04:08 PM »

No offence here FC I moved here around 14 years ago and then moved to CC but it has just grown and grown with cold heartless blocks of stone and brick which are getting smaller and smaller yet deemed to house the same family size? gone are gardens to play in gone are the back to backs where you spoke to your neighbour over the fence or shared your gardening tools.




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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #18 Posted: 09 October 2010 at 08:57 PM »

Hi fishfinger,Pakefield seems to be the popular choice of those posting,it is a place where I grew up from 1940 to 1962 then I was married at All Saints and Saint Margarets Pakefiels church I moved to Oulton Broad. Whilst I enjoyed my 13 years at Oulton Broad before moving to Norwich even now I hunger for the sound of the surf crashing on the beach,the cry of the seagulls,the smell of the sea and the walks along the beach.

Whilst Pakefield has changed it is minimal compared with Lowestoft,Pakefield still holds a great attraction for me mainly because the area where I was brought up remains relatively unspoilt.

If you would like to sample Pakefield,why not book a self catering cottage actually in Pakefield,I have recently done a web search and have found five,one two doors from where I was brought up. I am finding the draw of my Pakefield becoming stronger and stronger and feel a weeks holiday becoming more necessary to either fuel the the enthusiasm to move back or kill it off for good. They say you should never go back,however Huh?
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #19 Posted: 10 October 2010 at 11:01 AM »

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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #20 Posted: 10 October 2010 at 11:04 AM »

Just been out for a very long walk what a glorious day its windy a strong North  wind but surprisingly warm the beach is full of dogs , fishermen, kite boarders and strollers  Just lovely
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #21 Posted: 10 October 2010 at 11:50 AM »

Suffolkboy these are for you

What super photos Funky,thank you for posting them,they depict exactly what I miss. I can almost hear those waves and feel that North wind and what about the fisherman,wonder if he has caught much? Yes I bet the beach is busy today as it seems we are having our Indian summer and I have just been sitting on the garden seat and it is very warm indeed. wave
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #22 Posted: 10 October 2010 at 12:20 PM »

i stood at end of road looking at the sea,it just awe inspiring today...pics are lovely fc
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #23 Posted: 10 October 2010 at 12:26 PM »

I think your best bet is to go to the Rightmove website & see what your £120K would buy you in the Lowestoft area.  You'll find demand is higher in places like Pakefield than central Lowestoft so they can charge higher prices for the same type of house.

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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #24 Posted: 13 October 2010 at 07:50 PM »

Trouble is where ever you chose to live it can alter over the years.When I first moved in near the harbour it was mainly offices and relatively quiet during the day and at night.
A dozen years later it all flats and bed sits,lots of unemployed and immigrants who seldom stay long and the whole area is run down.
I think as building takes place on the outskirts it seems to create a sort of vacuum in the center,shops and offices close and buy to let landlords move in.Planning permission is given willy nilly to avoid empty buildings and the problems that arise are then ignored.
I'm told Lowestoft ranks as one of the most deprived areas in England and harbour ward is the most deprived area in it.Wow,that really is something to shout about.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #25 Posted: 13 October 2010 at 08:04 PM »

Have you ever thought of turning that shop into an estate agents? evil6
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #26 Posted: 13 October 2010 at 08:29 PM »

Trouble is where ever you chose to live it can alter over the years.When I first moved in near the harbour it was mainly offices and relatively quiet during the day and at night.
A dozen years later it all flats and bed sits,lots of unemployed and immigrants who seldom stay long and the whole area is run down.
I think as building takes place on the outskirts it seems to create a sort of vacuum in the center,shops and offices close and buy to let landlords move in.Planning permission is given willy nilly to avoid empty buildings and the problems that arise are then ignored.
I'm told Lowestoft ranks as one of the most deprived areas in England and harbour ward is the most deprived area in it.Wow,that really is something to shout about.

I can remember a certain Michael Foreman opening the Pakefield fete two years ago and saying how much Lowestoft had changed for the worse as opposed  to Pakefield which had largely remained unchanged. Many on LOL thought this was unfair at the time and posted in disagreeing with Michael,so are we now admitting Lowestoft has gone down hill or is this one persons opinion?

I myself thought at the time that Michael based his comments upon how he remembered Lowestoft,so I would agree with you Old Spice that changes do happen which contradict what we remembered in the earlier years,hence I always thought Michael's comments were based on what he remembered Lowestoft to be during the years when his Mother ran the corner shop at Pakefield.Yes in those days Lowestoft had a thriving fishing ,Ship Building,Coach building and Shoe Manufacturing industries,that was the Lowestoft I am sure Michael was thinking about.
I certainly like to remember it like that.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #27 Posted: 13 October 2010 at 10:09 PM »

I can only give my personal opinion,others may think differently.I really like some of Lowestoft,unfortunately for reasons given,not the bit I live in now.
Business wise it went down the toilet for as long time when the boats went and all the promises from the government and MP about help were as empty as the trawl basin is now.The 'vision' sorry nightmare of the sunlies scheme and yellow line obsession killed off the area for retail etc etc.
Still sitting here now I've a good view of the harbour,so it's not all bad!
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #28 Posted: 13 October 2010 at 10:13 PM »

The 'vision' sorry nightmare of the sunlies scheme .........

Was 'sunlies' a deliberate 'error' Old Spice?
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #29 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 07:28 AM »

I think unfortunately as towns grow and Lowestoft has grown beyond what it can offer , unless a direct effort is made, with intelligent funding   (which we havent had) then the town centre and increasing area around it becomes less desirable to live in. Pubs ,bars, clubs ,takeaways nightlife all grow with it and generally accumulate around the centre which unfortunately (more today than ever) encourage drink, litter, fights  and trouble in general. Although we talk about Lowestoft I do believe this fits ina with the general decline of our nation I have seen the same happen in other towns.

Harbour is certainly the most deprived area of the town I don't think Lowestoft is the most deprived town though   
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #30 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 11:10 AM »

While I have not retired here I will probably still stay here (in the area) when and if I ever get round to actually retiring (government allowed)  evil6
Though I do feel that the 'new' builds are heartless and cold it may be that like most I come from a time when everyone spoke to everyone else and doors were open to all
Now I say hello to a passing person and there is silence in return!

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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #31 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 11:51 AM »

Nikkai.I fully agree with you,to ignore a morning greeting surely must rank as bad manners. OK everyone has the choice to speak or not to speak but I thought being civilized to answer ones greeting is not asking to much. I have it happen to me on the odd occasion,it only happens once as I respond in the same way next time I meet that person.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #32 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 12:04 PM »

Try giving someone a smile in the morning. It worries them to death.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #33 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 12:05 PM »

Well put 2025 in your diary, according to this link it will be when Lowestoft harbour and surronding areas will be renovated. Smiley

http://www.lowestoftjournal.co.uk/news/vision_for_future_of_lowestoft_harbour_1_679054
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #34 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 12:10 PM »

According to the goverments figures Lowestoft is in the 15% most deprived areas on the UK. and has been since 2003.
Consistent if nothing else.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #35 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 12:19 PM »

The 'report' in the Journal is a load of twaddle.WDC have allowed,in fact positively encouraged the area to turn into the dump it is now.Quite how their ambitious plans tie in with their avowed intent to make it a conservation area remain to be seen.As for Ist East,the quicker that load of stuffed shirts are done away with and have to go out and get proper jobs the better.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #36 Posted: 14 October 2010 at 01:08 PM »

Well we re not in the top 10 looked that much up didnt have time to look any further

A.lso it appears there are diiferent league tables for deprivation based on housing, shops, crime etc etc so you could come out low on one but not on another so all a bit grey methinks
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #37 Posted: 01 November 2010 at 01:38 PM »

All good advice, but it pays to remember what's a short walk or quick hop on the bus now, might be awkward or impossible when you get older. Having several elderly relatives make this mistake has altered my thinking.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #38 Posted: 02 November 2010 at 07:48 AM »

well theres no hills here thats for sure
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #39 Posted: 02 November 2010 at 12:28 PM »

Tor's but no hills  Grin
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #40 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 01:28 PM »

...to "test drive" Pakefield you can rent out a small place for not too much money for a w/e   www.peacefulpakefield.co.uk   offers 3 days for £150 in 2011


Try this:      www.peacefulpakefield.co.uk


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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #41 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 01:47 PM »

Hey Dean, your link has got a space at the start of it, might want to edit the post for anyone who might just think the website is broken instead of taking the extra space out Smiley
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #42 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 03:22 PM »

That looks like a nice house Smiley
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #43 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 05:02 PM »

Not too much money?!  That is £350 a week, or just over £1,400 a month.  Not very cheap! 

Website has a few spelling mistakes.  There area few grammatical errors; the site gives the 'impression' that the path down to the beach is just outside the house.  I also see that this is described as a 'cottage' - doesn't seem right somehow and people visiting may be disappointed. 
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #44 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 05:50 PM »

£350 a week not to bad for a holiday let, as for spelling , are you some self appointed Spell Checker on here JJ?
I find it down right rude that some one picks another up on spelling.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #45 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 05:58 PM »

It is a business website, letting out a holiday home.  As a business website, it needs to look professional.  Running text through a spell checker before adding to the internet is an easy basic thing to do.  More importantly, double checking all content before making a site go 'live' is the most important thing a business should do.  Even on here, I double check my posts before I press the 'submit' button as there are normally a few mistakes I need to correct.  As far as the website goes, saying the 'cottage' costs £150 a might is an easy mistake to make, but also an easy mistake to spot. 

It is hard work trying to run a business.  Failing to spot spelling errors on your advertising simply shows how a business is failing itself. 
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #46 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 06:29 PM »

£50 a night is actually very reasonable, if not very cheap! especially for the let of an entire house. Places like travelodge, and most other b&b's where you only get 1 room cost around £60-£80 a night.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #47 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 06:33 PM »

Most guesthouses between Kirkley and Pakefield charge between £30 to £50 per night, and includes breakfast.  Pontins in Pakefield do rooms off-season from £25 a night! 

Just to prove a point, there is a news article on the BBC today all about how spelling mistakes on websites are costing businesses millions in lost trade!! 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-14130854
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #48 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 09:11 PM »

Not too much money?!  That is £350 a week, or just over £1,400 a month.  Not very cheap! 

Website has a few spelling mistakes.  There area few grammatical errors; the site gives the 'impression' that the path down to the beach is just outside the house.  I also see that this is described as a 'cottage' - doesn't seem right somehow and people visiting may be disappointed. 


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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #49 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 09:17 PM »

Opp s  Smiley
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #50 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 09:57 PM »

Erm... spot the deliberate mistake?!
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OK, so on here I slip up.  But on my websites I try to doublecheck and triplecheck everything I write, both before I go live and afterwards.  Just because I make mistakes sometimes, doesn't mean my point is invalid - just that I too have made the same mistakes!! 
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #51 Posted: 14 July 2011 at 10:18 PM »

I think telling them via message would be better  Smiley
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #52 Posted: 15 July 2011 at 12:07 AM »

JJ Said...OK, so on here I slip up.  But on my websites I try to doublecheck and triplecheck everything I write, both before I go live and afterwards.  Just because I make mistakes sometimes, doesn't mean my point is invalid - just that I too have made the same mistakes!!


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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #53 Posted: 15 July 2011 at 12:16 AM »

Jonathon was advertising his own holiday home to people on here, and I was merely pointing out why his calendar on the website is empty, because of the various issues with the website.  I am sure he will be happy to have someone more 'au fait' with website design help him through any issues.  I was very careful not to make any personal comments, but merely commented on business matters. 

I try not to attack people personally. 
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #54 Posted: 15 July 2011 at 07:19 AM »

So your a business adviser, oh sorry did'nt know that.
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #55 Posted: 15 July 2011 at 07:27 AM »

Jonathon was advertising his own holiday home to people on here, and I was merely pointing out why his calendar on the website is empty, because of the various issues with the website.  I am sure he will be happy to have someone more 'au fait' with website design help him through any issues.  I was very careful not to make any personal comments, but merely commented on business matters. 

I try not to attack people personally. 

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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #56 Posted: 15 July 2011 at 09:35 AM »

deanfarmstudios = Jonathon. 
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Re: Thinking of retiring to the area « Reply #57 Posted: 25 July 2011 at 10:52 AM »

Hi all Jonathan here,

This thread reminds me of a fine art auction I went to several years ago...

There were three Zen tea bowls for sale.  Tiny things made of ceramic about the size of a small tea cup without the handle.  2 were expected to reach £30 K  and the other £35 k.  I asked the auctioneer why the difference in price.  He explained that the more expensive one had a very, very small imperfection and as only god was perfect was therefore worth more.  They all sold for slightly above the estimated price.  True story.

As for www.peacefulpakefield.co.uk   its a new business, advertising has just begun and bookings are coming in fast.

Many thanks for your thoughts.
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